Episode 2 - Right person wrong time, surviving long distance, and overcoming challenges together
Welcome to the second episode of Ordinary Love—a podcast where I sit down with couples and celebrate their love story! Join me as I hear about the big, small, beautiful, sometimes messy, and always special ordinary moments that make relationships incredibly extraordinary.
In this episode, I get to sit with my sibling, Bel, and honorary sister, Leslie. Bel is a videographer/photographer and Leslie is a full-time student, and they live with me in the Silicon Valley with their puppy, Carlo!
They share with us…
♡ What it was like to fall in love at the wrong time and reconnect a year later after doing the work
♡ Dealing with fear of heartbreak and healing from relational trauma
♡ Starting long distance and eventually moving in together
♡ How mental health drastically tested their relationship and how they overcame it
♡ Being hella gay and doing hella gay things together
♡ Developing ways of communicating despite having different communication styles
♡ Being in an interracial relationship and learning about each other’s cultures
...And more
Scroll down for episode transcript ♡
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Episode Transcript
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[Music]
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Hey, are we ready? Mhm. How are you guys feeling?
I'm nervous. I don't know why I nervous. I'm
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normally behind the camera, so Oh, yeah. They're
allergic in front of the camera. This is what
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Belle looks like. In fact, why don't we start with
you guys just introducing yourselves really quick?
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and then we can we can go from there. Hello.
Hello. My name is Leslie. I'm 25 years old,
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born and raised in Chicago, and I've been
living in California for school since 2018.
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2018. Yep. I was in San Diego and then now Bay
Area. Yeah. Fun fact, when I first met Leslie,
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I didn't know that she wasn't California
native. Well, not just California native,
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SoCal native. Like, you were just you gave
that vibe. I get I got that a lot. Yeah,
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too. I was very surprised. I feel like I
adjusted very fast cuz everyone's really
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nice. You're ready. Hi, I'm Bel. Uh, I was born
and raised in the Bay Area. I'm 26 years old.
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I still don't have health insurance. Sorry.
Sorry. Real. Um, I am a photographer and I'm
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a videographer. An editor. An editor and director
and direct and director. Guys, all of the above.
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And who is this young fellow over here? This is
Carlo. Carlo, would you like to say a few words?
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Okay. He is nine months old. We got him in
January. Jan Oh my gosh, it's been since January.
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Um, and we got him when he was two months. Two
months old, so he's still a growing boy. Um,
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he um he just had his surgery. Yeah, he's a man
now. He looks like a man now. Used to be like used
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to fit in your hand. You could just you could just
hold him and there would be no way. Are you going
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to insert photos? Yeah. Okay. No weight. So Bel
is my sibling and Bel and Leslie are also my
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roommates. So I currently live with my husband and
these two. And then there's another dog somewhere,
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but his name is Quincy. But we all live
together. But really, I want to kind of
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start with your guys' story. It's funny because I
feel like this has been very highly anticipated.
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Even I don't think I know like the full story. I
was very heavily involved without knowing. Yeah,
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there's definitely so many parts that you don't
know that I didn't know. You didn't know because
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Bel just was like not sharing any information
anything. But, you know, this will be this will
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be interesting to kind of put all the pieces
together. So, I don't know. Wherever you guys want
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to start is perfect for me. I'll start. So, it
was a uh cousin's vacation. We went to San Diego.
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Ena lived in San Diego at the time and it was a
vacation because Jake had never been to San Oh,
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Jake's our cut. Jake, shout out to our first guest
in our first episode. So, it was the cousins trip
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was me, Belle, and Jake. Yeah. Have you heard this
part? Okay. Have I heard? So, it was a cousin's
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trip. It was a really fun trip, too. But during
that time, I was in my hot bell summer days. And
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uh I happened to be on Bumble. What a hot summer
it was. And uh I saw this cute thing right here.
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And so I said, "Do you swipe or do you press?"
Swipe. I swipe. Yes. Was swipe. Can I see my
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heart? It's been so long. I don't even remember
what Swipe. Oh, yeah. This was back in 2020. 2020.
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Yeah, I remember seeing them on Mumble and I was
like, "Oh, they're cute." But for some, like some
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part of me was like, "I don't know which one I
want to do." Like, I don't know which one I want
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to sw. Wow. So, you were unsure. So unsure that I
just didn't touch the app for a second cuz I was
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like, I don't know. I literally like didn't even
like So, basically, she didn't think I was cute.
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I thought they were cute. Carl, I think Quincy won
me over in the last photo. Oh, Quincy was in the
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last photo. I think Quincy, do you still have
that photo? I do. It's because in every photo,
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Belle had sunglasses on. Is it the one with the
red shirt? Like, oh my god, I know exactly what
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photo it is. H sunglasses on in that photo. Half
of my face was covered. Most of them. Okay. So,
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can you blame me? You left the app for a few days
because you weren't sure. Was it like you sensed
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that there was trouble? No, it was just literally
the fact that like their full face was not like
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fully clear in any of the photos and I was like
I was a catfish. But I was like but like no,
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they're kind of cute. And then like they had like
a little skateboarding photo and I was like oh my
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god a little skateboarder. And eventually I did
go back. Obviously I swiped right. And then the
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craziest thing is that by the time I swiped right
and we matched the however many miles they were
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away from me updated and all of a sudden it was
like 400 something miles away. Wait wait wait
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wait. Let's just backtrack a little bit. Okay.
I I'm hearing both perspectives. I seriously I
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wasn't sure that she was going to match with me.
And you know, at the time I was in San Diego,
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so I just figured, hey, let's just let's just see.
And then I so happened to it was like my first day
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back home. And then I got a message and she said,
why are all the cute ones so far away? She got the
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ribs, bro. I'm not a shy girl. She got the I mean,
yes, you are. Oh, in some ways. When it comes to
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flirting, no. Okay. Okay. So, just some context.
So, I was living in San Diego at the time.
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Belle was living in Were you in San Jose or SF?
I was in San Jose because it was during co so I'm
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during so I think you guys visited me um maybe
summer of 2020. Um was it before or after our
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trip? I don't even remember. It was it was before
that that trip is stories around that trip too.
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Okay. So it was like summerish I think maybe early
summer of 2020 when Belle came and visited me.
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um they matched and then Belle Leslie took forever
to respond. So Belle came back to San Jose which
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is like the other side of California for those who
aren't familiar but okay go on Leslie came up with
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this really really great pickup line. Yeah. And
I just I just thought and they fell for it. Okay.
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Okay. Okay. Okay. The thing is, in my past, I've
never dated anyone who wasn't Asian or Filipino.
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So, I was kind of like intrigued and I didn't even
know that you were going to match with me. So, I'm
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like, you know what? You thought I was mixed with
what? Filipino. Filipino. I really Maybe. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. That's why that's why you were like
not as scared as Yeah. Um, we basically started
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facetiming like very quick and she had never
seen one of my favorite shows, Avatar the Last
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Airbender. She had never seen it before. And so I
said, I'mma take it upon myself to watch it with
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you like over Zoom. What? No, no, no. Over over
FaceTime over FaceTime. And I'm just like, okay,
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you can't watch this specific episode without me.
She was like, okay. And we we had Which episode?
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Um, Crossroads of Destiny. Oh my god. 100%.
You can't. We were FaceTiming very we started
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FaceTiming really quickly like almost every day
for like a full month really and I remember that
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I didn't want to like sleep over FaceTime cuz I'm
like it's not that deep. Like we're not I'm not
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going to date her. Like it's just kind of like So
what was going through your mind? You're just like
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here's just this pretty person that I'm facetiming
every single day. It was just for fun because we
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were so far away. Yeah. And also it was during co
we were all like lonely, you know, so like bored.
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Literally so bored. So I like I remember used to
watch Avatar. Yeah. And I remember a couple times
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like Leslie would want to like like just leave
it all like she would fall asleep on FaceTime
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or I would fall asleep and like there was wasn't
there a night that it actually happened? I don't
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remember. Okay. I I think I do remember. But it
sounds like it was like an accident. And I like
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instantly hung up. I was like, "We did not
just do this." Like it was like Yeah. Wait,
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why? Cuz you were scared. I was scared honestly.
This whole the this entire like beginning half of
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our relationship is because I was so scared of
love. Because I didn't want to go through the
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same heartbreak that I did before um moving back
to San Jose. So, you were kind of fresh off of
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a breakup. Yeah. Um, hot bell summer. I'm just
before Belle had even came back to San Diego,
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they had told me pretty much that like they love
to beat around the bush and never get straight
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to the point. They want like me, they always want
like someone else to lead it. They're like, "So,
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like why like what what brought you to Bumble?
like, "Why were you on Bumble?" And I was like,
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"What are you going to say? Just say it." Okay.
Okay. Wait, wait, wait. A little a little bit
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before that. I wasn't I didn't have any warnings
that she was going to be so like straight forward.
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Straightforward. Like she kind of puts me in check
sometimes where I'm like beating around the bush
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and I'm trying to avoid certain questions or
certain answers to like say, "Don't waste my
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time." Nope. Yeah. cuz I was like immediate cuz
it came out of nowhere and I was like immediately
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I felt like it was going towards a a certain
conversation. So I was like, "Why were you like
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just tell me now?" Like what? And it wasn't like
nothing aggressive, just straightforward. And they
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pretty much told me that they were like not ready
or looking for anything that they did really like
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me, but they're just like they said, "I just got
out of a pretty serious relationship like and I
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don't think I'm ready to be in a relationship."
basically saying like, "I don't want to do that
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to you and be selfish, not wanting to let you go."
Right. And I was like, "Oh my god, what were you
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doing at the time?" Yeah, I know. That's what I
just remembered. Um, no, just wait. Just wait. I
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was feeling very different things than they were
feeling. We were both liked each other, but I was
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very like, I like this person. She was whipped.
Was that something that you like, did you know
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that early on? Yes, because of what I'm about to
say. I am very much I like gift giving a lot. And
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it could be like to like someone that I just met
and I'm like, you're pretty cool or just someone
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I have a lot of feelings for and I like making
things. And Belle was skateboarding a lot at the
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time. So, I literally like got a skateboard. She
bought one online. a deck off eBay and I was like,
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I'm going to paint this whole thing and add
the grip tape and like design everything.
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Doesn't know anything about skateboarding. No,
I was like painting it on my bed. Literally,
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I remember being on my bed painting it like it
was intricate. Okay, it was my best work. It
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was really It's It was so cool. It was avatar
and then a bee at the top and whatever. But as
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I was painting this thing on my bed, excited to
give it to them for whenever they came down, that
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conversation started happening. And I literally
remember I like looked at my phone. I went I like,
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"Oh my god." Cuz I felt very like stupid in the
moment just cuz I was like, "Did that surprise
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you?" Yeah. Like you thought the relationship
was going I thought everything was like very
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mutual but I didn't really know about that they
had just gotten out of a serious relationship
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or else I don't think I would have been as shocked
right about it and my roommate was like on her bed
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cuz we shared a room and she was like on the other
side and I did and I reacted and she was like what
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happened? I was like you're never going to believe
the conversation I'm having right now. Honestly,
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with everything that they said, like part of me
because of what I was in the middle of doing,
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I was mad, but not really like actually mad at
them. I think I was just like disappointed maybe.
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Yeah. And but I couldn't actually like be mad
at them because everything they said I was like,
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you know what, I respect it because they were
very upfront with me. Like, you know what? It
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could have been worse. It could have been they
could have ghosted me. Okay. And then so I went
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to go visit Ena. When was this? Um it was a few
weeks later. Yeah, a few weeks later. It was still
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a couple weeks before our our road trip. Or was it
actually I think I was coming because we left from
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San Diego. Belle and I were, you know, we really
like to camp and like hike and stuff and um this
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was during COVID, so we were like itching to do
something. So, we planned this road trip that
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went through from San Diego to Arizona to Utah to
Vegas and then back. Um, so Belle came down um so
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that we can leave because it's easier to get to
Arizona from San Diego and then I had met up with
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her. We still had each other on everything and
like we're still not actively talking. We would
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just pop back. Wait, so after that conversation
you guys stopped talking as much? Oh, we were No,
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we were still We were still talking. We just No,
but we just didn't FaceTime like every day or
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something like that. I was just like, "Hey." Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. That was a point of our relationship
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where I was like glued to my phone just cuz like
the text messages weren't coming out as fast. Oh,
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so you noticed a difference? Yeah. So, I mean,
we were still talking, but it was still like
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platonic, you know? Um, and so when I went
to San Diego, I went to go meet up with her
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because I mean, why not? Yeah. Well, they were
coming to meet me. I was going to go, you know,
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this whole time thought Belle was visiting.
Yeah. Bel told me Belle told me I was like,
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"Oh, I have a friend who works at Starbucks in San
Diego." And I was like, "Oh, yeah. Go off. Go meet
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her." Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and this is the first time
we met in person. We were in the garage. Yeah.
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And so I didn't know where to go cuz she at the
time lived in a like a door like a college campus.
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I was so freaking nervous. Oh yeah. I'm just like
dude like this was your first time meeting after
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talking for like what a month? Yeah. And I'm like
okay. No. No. I don't like her. I don't like her.
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I don't like her. And when I saw her in person,
I'm like I like her. I'm like okay. I What was I
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wearing? You were wearing shorts, right? I'm
not testing you. I just want to know you. Do
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you remember? No. Okay. No, you were just wearing
a t-shirt and shorts and your like slip-on bands.
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Period. Yeah. And when she met me downstairs,
she had the skateboard deck. Was that when we
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were Oh, yeah. Cuz we were going to Sunset like
immediately. Cliffs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Cuz we were going to drive to Sunset Cliffs. We
were just going to hang out. This wasn't a date,
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but it definitely was. I was contemplating. I
finished the board. I still did everything. I
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wasn't even fully done when they had like broke
the news to me. But I was like, you know what?
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I'm already this deep in. I have everything that
I'm just going to finish it. And I still made it
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the exact way I was planning on. I was like, you
know what? They're not a bad person. I might seem
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a little crazy having made this out of nowhere
and giving it to them, but we left out a really
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important part. What? So in the in the in the
time that like we weren't really talking as much,
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she started talking to someone. So that was
that was another thing where I was like, "Okay,
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let me just take a step back because she's
obviously moved on and I'm just going to,
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you know, just But yeah, that was a thing."
And then after we went to Sunset Cliffs, I had
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dropped her off and you said, "Oh, I have a lot of
homework to do." Or was that a different day? That
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was a different day. That was the last time. The
last time. Jesus. Okay. No. Okay. They're so bad
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at telling stories. I'm not So first time they
came to the parking lot, whatever. I gave them
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the board. Yeah. Cuz then the second time I know
what you're trying to say. The second time they
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came over and we were we went back to my apartment
and we were just at the top of the parking garage
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just skating and then we would stop and just talk
and whatever. They were not they even trying to be
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close to me. They weren't even trying to flirt.
They were just trying to hang out. I was keeping
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their distance to an extent and to an extent I I
was I was respectful and I randomly like hit them
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with the Oh, by the way, like I'm not talking
to anyone anymore. Oh, the plot begins. Okay,
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let's just the the vibe switch was crazy. Really?
Yes. I was trying like at the time I knew that
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like I knew that she was talking to someone so
I'm like let's just you know be friends. It wasn't
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even that serious honestly though. And then did
we go on our trip? Uh yeah. Yeah, we did. We went
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to the trip after I got home or I went back to
her place. It was just really hard because like
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like there was just a lot going through my head.
Like I came in like thinking a whole different way
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about her and then I left like thinking a whole
so I was just very confused and overwhelmed and
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I just didn't know how to process everything. So I
just got back to her house and I kind of just sat
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there and I didn't I didn't really do much. I was
kind of just sitting there like in I genuinely had
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no idea any of this was happening. Yeah. There was
one point and I don't know where in the timeline
0:18:48.480,0:18:55.440
this is. We obviously Belle's still not wanting
a relationship, but now things were not as like
0:18:55.440,0:19:01.280
platonic, I guess. And Belle would try to hang out
with me and I like either wouldn't be able to or
0:19:01.280,0:19:06.000
like I or maybe I just wouldn't respond. And this
was me protecting myself cuz I was just like they
0:19:06.000,0:19:12.080
don't really okay but like want me right now. And
this is when she was like playing hard to get but
0:19:12.080,0:19:17.680
like she wasn't playing hard to get. She was just
like let me just take a step back instead of me
0:19:17.680,0:19:23.200
taking it. It's like So she was the because I was
so eager in the beginning and then that hurt. So I
0:19:23.200,0:19:29.520
was like, "Okay, let me just" And then Belle was
emo and went to go get a tattoo. Okay. Okay. No,
0:19:29.520,0:19:34.160
no, no, no, no. We We skipped the whole part.
We skipped the whole road trip part. Yeah, cuz
0:19:34.160,0:19:39.520
the road trip actually was important. Iconic road
trip. Um Yes, the iconic road trip that literally
0:19:39.520,0:19:44.320
changed my life, but that's a story for another.
Yeah, honestly, it was a very life-changing. No,
0:19:44.320,0:19:50.160
it was good. Um, yeah. I just had weird dreams
about her and I thought that they were real
0:19:50.160,0:19:55.280
and then I would just discuss it with her and
Ena's just like, "I think you like her." Oh,
0:19:55.280,0:20:01.200
no. No. This is when I I confessed to you. I
told you everything. Yeah. You were like, you
0:20:01.200,0:20:06.400
just came out and I was like, you know, I need to
I need to And I was like, what is going on? Like,
0:20:06.400,0:20:11.040
I could tell that there was something that was
really troubling you. Yeah. But, um, yeah, that
0:20:11.040,0:20:16.000
was basically the road trip that changed both of
our lives. And the reason why this is happening,
0:20:16.000,0:20:20.480
right? What do you mean? This like No, like we
live together still. Yes. So, yeah, the road trip
0:20:20.480,0:20:26.960
is the reason why I moved back from San Diego to
San Jose and then we moved in together. I wanted
0:20:26.960,0:20:32.400
to hang out with her because I was leaving the day
after that to go back to San Jose cuz we only had
0:20:32.400,0:20:37.360
like that extra day in San San Diego and then I
left after and I really just wanted to spend the
0:20:37.360,0:20:43.760
rest of my time in San Diego with her. We didn't.
But she like left me on red and like I was like,
0:20:43.760,0:20:49.680
"You know what? I'm going to get a tattoo." Like
I feel like I feel like I'm going to Oh my god.
0:20:49.680,0:20:53.520
That's why you got the tattoo. Which one? Cuz they
Yeah, I was going to say, "Show the tattoo." Yeah,
0:20:53.520,0:20:57.840
because I was just I was I was They wanted to
distract themselves. Yeah. Yeah. I had no idea
0:20:57.840,0:21:02.320
that was the context. So, this tattoo is like
a It's like a red I don't know how you would
0:21:02.320,0:21:10.320
describe the font. It's like gothic. Yeah. Like
ye old, you know? Um it's red. And it says 1999
0:21:10.320,0:21:17.680
and it's on Belle's like right like lower upper
arm like right above the the elbow. Yeah. And I
0:21:17.680,0:21:22.560
didn't tell any of you guys this, but you said
go get a tattoo. Exactly. My tattoo artist,
0:21:22.560,0:21:27.760
her name was Alexa, and I was like she's like,
"So, what you what brings you in? Just just do
0:21:27.760,0:21:34.320
it. Just tattoo me. Like, I'm fine. I don't want."
And she's like, "Oh, no. Yeah, let's just get get
0:21:34.320,0:21:38.400
started." You know? And she was just trying to
small talk me. But I was in a Yeah. I was in a
0:21:38.400,0:21:47.120
very like I wouldn't say bad mood, but I was just
upset. Fast forward like the year after that. Like
0:21:47.120,0:21:54.640
we hadn't talked for like how long? A year.
A year and I blocked her. Wait, but okay. So,
0:21:54.640,0:22:01.760
sorry. Just like just to recap. Belle went on
this lifechanging road trip, finally reconciled
0:22:01.760,0:22:09.760
their feelings for Leslie, but by then it was
too late. Fast forward the next like throughout
0:22:09.760,0:22:16.160
that next year I was in like a situationship
like it was never like official relationship
0:22:16.160,0:22:23.520
that was a mess whatever and throughout that
time like Belle didn't block me but they muted
0:22:23.520,0:22:28.480
me on everything so they wouldn't see anything
of mine pop up they didn't want to see what I
0:22:28.480,0:22:36.800
was doing they didn't want to see another person
pro like probably pop up whatever and so I didn't
0:22:36.800,0:22:40.880
take them off of anything. I didn't mute them on
anything. I was still saying whatever. And Belle
0:22:40.880,0:22:46.400
like didn't really post a lot at the time. So
when they would every now and then, every month,
0:22:46.400,0:22:51.680
every few months or so, whatever, I would always
slide up and say something really like not really
0:22:51.680,0:23:00.240
flirting. I think it would just kind of like
friendly vibes for sure. But just being like,
0:23:00.240,0:23:08.160
I know she's kind of I still exist. I know.
Seriously. And yeah, I know I slid up on something
0:23:08.160,0:23:13.440
that was just you and one that I remember was
specifically you and Justice. And then you said
0:23:13.440,0:23:18.880
you said you said [ __ ] what' you say like I like
your fit or something. Yeah, I like your outfit or
0:23:18.880,0:23:26.560
something like that. And then May of 2021. Wait,
wait, wait, wait. What? No, no, no. Before that,
0:23:26.560,0:23:32.800
before that, I saw a Snapchat. I finally I finally
looked at a Snapchat cuz I'm like I literally I
0:23:32.800,0:23:42.400
cannot like the timing is crazy because that was
the Snapchat that I saw was not PG. What she was
0:23:42.400,0:23:50.720
wearing is the reason one of the PG. She was with
her friends. It was not on purpose. She was with
0:23:50.720,0:23:59.120
her friends and she was kind of just shaking ass.
Sorry. Can I shaking? She was shaking booty. Oh,
0:23:59.120,0:24:02.960
wait, wait. My conversation with Justice. Oh,
yeah. Say that part. We were in the parking lot
0:24:02.960,0:24:08.480
and I was like, "Justice, let me let me show you
this girl." And he's like, "Okay." It was that
0:24:08.480,0:24:14.400
Snapchat. It was that Snapchat. Oh. And he's like,
"Damn, she cute." She He's like, "So, what about
0:24:14.400,0:24:18.960
her?" I'm like, "I need to tell you something."
I basically gave him a rundown and he's like,
0:24:18.960,0:24:27.920
"You're dumb as [ __ ] You're dumb as fuck." You
let that slip away. He kind of slap not slapped
0:24:27.920,0:24:31.840
me but like he kind of just like metaphorically
Yeah. Get yourself. He's like, "Dude, you need
0:24:31.840,0:24:40.240
to Yeah. pull yourself together. Text her right
now." Like right now. So it was Justice. He was
0:24:40.240,0:24:46.400
Yeah. Actually, shout out to my bestie push. Yeah,
he was he was definitely the push that I did need
0:24:46.400,0:24:54.160
to to like reach out again, but you can continue.
And then May 2021, Belle finally hits me up and
0:24:54.160,0:25:00.480
was like, "So, this is like this this part is
like the gayest thing ever." It is like the most
0:25:00.480,0:25:08.640
stereotypical gay thing ever because they hit me
up and they're like, "Hey, so like what did you
0:25:08.640,0:25:13.760
say?" No, no, like like Ena is going to be out of
the apartment for the weekend. Where was I going?
0:25:13.760,0:25:21.440
You one solo? Oh, no. Um, Hawaii. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. So I was so she was gone for like maybe 3 4
0:25:21.440,0:25:27.760
days and then I yeah I asked her like you know
you you've never really seen the you know Bay
0:25:27.760,0:25:33.440
Area and I can show you around like would you be
down to like I'll have the house to myself. The
0:25:33.440,0:25:42.880
gay thing is you went you came she came over
you guys. It was both pretty gay. Yeah. You
0:25:42.880,0:25:47.360
immediately invited me over to your house because
you were it was going to be you were all alone.
0:25:48.400,0:25:56.560
And so I was down, but at the time like I had
my I had Ginger, my pitbull, my cute little
0:25:56.560,0:26:05.920
bit. And I know and I was she's she's not a small
girl. She's not like these two. And I was like,
0:26:05.920,0:26:11.680
I'm down to come, but can I bring my dog? Could I
bring her? Like she's not small. Like she's pretty
0:26:11.680,0:26:17.200
like you. Belle had seen her before. And Belle
was just like, oh my god, yeah, of course. And
0:26:17.200,0:26:22.800
Quincy went to the grandparents house just to make
sure. Is did really I thought they met. That was
0:26:22.800,0:26:28.000
we were dating already by the time that they met.
Yeah. No, cuz I knew his ass would have like Yeah.
0:26:28.000,0:26:33.120
Quincy's not very good with other dogs, but he is
really good with girl dogs. Yeah. So, it probably
0:26:33.120,0:26:40.320
would have been fine, but they, you know, it's
fine. They shipp they shipped him off. Yeah. So, I
0:26:40.320,0:26:47.040
the time came around. I drove literally like seven
to eight hours by myself to see to go stay at this
0:26:47.040,0:26:54.080
person's house who I only seen like a handful of
times. Oh my gosh. After after they ghosted you
0:26:54.080,0:27:00.480
for like I at that point my situationship had like
ended and I think we liked each other but we're
0:27:00.480,0:27:05.200
like it's not anything like can we just stop like
can we just dancing around? Yeah, let's just At
0:27:05.200,0:27:11.520
that point we both were like just back and forth.
So, it was just like for fun and I was just like,
0:27:11.520,0:27:14.960
"You know what? Like, I really liked you and
you were a really good person. I'm going to
0:27:14.960,0:27:20.720
go see you. Like, I don't care about whatever it
is I just went through." And yeah, they showed me
0:27:20.720,0:27:28.080
around SF and we went to the Rose Garden all Wait,
that was your first time seeing the Golden Gate
0:27:28.080,0:27:37.280
Bridge? Everything. I didn't I didn't I never ever
ever even thought of San Francisco or the Bay Area
0:27:37.280,0:27:43.120
until I met them because California to her was
SoCal because I'm from the Midwest. I didn't know
0:27:43.120,0:27:48.400
anything. Yeah, California is like Santa Monica
Pier and like palm trees. I barely knew about San
0:27:48.400,0:27:55.360
Diego. I thought everything was LA. By now, Belle
and I were living together in San Jose. Mhm. So,
0:27:55.360,0:28:01.040
I was on a trip um a solo trip to Hawaii, which is
funny cuz that's where Brad's from, but I didn't
0:28:01.040,0:28:08.320
meet him there. And then Leslie came and visited
while I was gone. She actually met a few Oh, yeah.
0:28:08.320,0:28:15.360
I literally Oh my god, I forgot about that part.
I got to San Jose, right? When I first got to San
0:28:15.360,0:28:23.120
Jose, Bella was like having a pan panic attack
apparently because they saw how close I was.
0:28:26.720,0:28:29.600
This never happens, by the way. Lay
on his head. He's gonna lay on his
0:28:29.600,0:28:36.480
head. He's on his head. Catch him. Catch
him. Catch him. You guys can both share
0:28:36.480,0:28:42.320
it. Just know sitting on him. Why is
this happening like right now? Quincy,
0:28:42.320,0:28:45.840
just just I feel like this episode will
get more views because of all the puffy
0:28:45.840,0:28:52.000
cuteness. He looks so comfortable. Here, I'm
just going to move him this way. Relax. Relax.
0:28:55.600,0:29:01.440
Okay, there we go. We're good. We're good. There's
a barrier. It's like me and doll when we show our
0:29:01.440,0:29:09.040
beds to put a pillow in between. Okay. Okay.
Um, yeah, Belle was having like a panic attack.
0:29:09.040,0:29:15.040
Justice was at the apartment, too, because Belle
was too scared to see me by themselves. Was he
0:29:15.040,0:29:21.360
really there? He was already there. He was there,
too. Yes. Wow. Dang. I really I got there. Yeah.
0:29:21.360,0:29:25.200
When I saw them, I literally went straight in for
a hug. Like nothing ever changed. Like nothing
0:29:25.200,0:29:28.880
had ever even happened. It was seriously like
nothing happened. And they were I could feel that
0:29:28.880,0:29:33.200
they were like They were like, "Oh my god." Like
they were They were expecting They were expecting
0:29:33.200,0:29:38.640
it to be kind of like like, "Oh, hey." Like
awkward. Yeah. Yeah. Like very I hate awkward.
0:29:38.640,0:29:43.680
I do everything I can to avoid it. I'm like, "No,
we're fine. I know you. You know me." And we went
0:29:43.680,0:29:48.240
inside. We were like chatting it up, whatever.
And then we realized cuz Justice was like, "Oh,
0:29:48.240,0:29:55.440
what's your sign?" And I was like, I said I was a
cancer. And they went terrified. And they're like,
0:29:55.440,0:29:58.960
wait, what do you think I am? I was like, you
know, I actually don't know what you are. Which
0:29:58.960,0:30:05.200
should have given me an indication to know exactly
what they were. And pretty much we ended up being
0:30:05.200,0:30:14.480
the signs that least compatible. Least compatible.
And like what our past partners were that had done
0:30:14.480,0:30:20.320
had put us through things were those same signs.
Like all Belle dated were cancers that traumatized
0:30:20.320,0:30:27.120
him. All I had dated right before them was like
Aquarius that. So like we were like we literally
0:30:27.120,0:30:32.240
said that and we went Yeah. I was like are you
like are you sure? Like do you want to just I
0:30:32.240,0:30:38.560
was like I really just drove this whole way.
I was like oh my god I'm stuck here for the
0:30:38.560,0:30:44.000
next three to four days. God that part of she's
a different cancer though. She was born in June
0:30:44.000,0:30:49.040
so it's different. And a cancer moon. They like
to they like to emphasize this part that just I
0:30:49.040,0:30:54.000
think if Belle was not a Cancer moon it would
have been very different. Yeah. Oh yeah. And
0:30:54.000,0:31:00.880
then they invited like three or four friends on
like I think like what is this friend groups in a
0:31:00.880,0:31:07.680
gang? She No. No. She met Justice, Joelle, Kenny
and Sophia who used to work at um Modto. I was
0:31:07.680,0:31:11.920
so scared. I was like all these people I don't
know and I'm getting introduced to. I was like
0:31:11.920,0:31:16.560
what is happening? What is this? Yeah. I was like
where are we? But they were all super super nice,
0:31:16.560,0:31:23.120
like very like down to earth people. So I
wasn't Did they ever like share with you,
0:31:23.120,0:31:32.640
Bill, their impressions of Leslie after? Yeah. Did
they? No. Well, we know Justice like like loved
0:31:32.640,0:31:38.480
you from Yeah. Oh, yeah. Joel didn't say anything.
I love Joelle. No, I I think he just saw that I
0:31:38.480,0:31:42.320
was super happy, so he just Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm
sure that them not saying anything was probably a
0:31:42.320,0:31:50.240
good thing. True. But yeah, then I left and then
we still weren't together. We're still Yeah. And
0:31:50.240,0:31:56.880
then that fall that summer pretty much it was
like Belle came down to see me like two more
0:31:56.880,0:32:06.000
times I think. And one of those times you got you
and like and Janina and Lance like like we're had
0:32:06.000,0:32:11.280
I remember had came to Boulevard where I live to
pick them up and that's when I met you for the
0:32:11.280,0:32:16.000
first time. Like it was so brief. Yeah. Because we
were going back home. We were going back home. It
0:32:16.000,0:32:23.360
was after Jennice and Rio's birthday. Um which was
in LA. And then we went down to San Diego to visit
0:32:23.360,0:32:29.840
my friends there. Belle was with Belle was there
too. Um and so the whole reason why I wanted to
0:32:29.840,0:32:34.800
tag along on that trip, those people No, those
people aren't really like they're my friends,
0:32:34.800,0:32:40.080
but they're they they went to to college. They're
they're more my friends. Yeah. Um, but they,
0:32:40.080,0:32:44.240
you know, we all I literally tagged along to
like the most random group. Like I It was like,
0:32:44.240,0:32:50.400
it was a random birthday. So, I slept on the floor
for her for was it two or three nights? Oh, yeah.
0:32:50.400,0:32:54.080
Yeah. I slept on a hard ass floor. And I'm Yeah.
I was like, it was like, "Yeah, you get the floor.
0:32:54.080,0:33:00.160
These aren't even your friends." No, seriously.
But, um, but yeah, so when we were about to drive
0:33:00.160,0:33:06.720
back up to San Jose after that trip, Belle was
at Leslie's and so we picked Belle up on our way
0:33:06.720,0:33:10.800
to literally leave. Like our car was packed and
everything. Honestly, my first impression was
0:33:10.800,0:33:17.120
that you guys literally just woke up and you were
like half awake. Probably. Oh, when Yeah. Yeah,
0:33:17.120,0:33:23.760
probably. Wait, did I sleep over? Yeah, I slept
over. Yeah, I did. Yeah. Yeah, you finally got
0:33:23.760,0:33:30.480
a bed. Oh my god. I think it was like two nights
if a night or two. It wasn't anything crazy. Oh
0:33:30.480,0:33:38.800
my god. So, that must have been like June June of
2021. Yeah. Mhm. I went through like housing stuff
0:33:38.800,0:33:43.280
the next few months after and Belle was still
it was still like back and forth. Belle would
0:33:43.280,0:33:50.080
come see me, but I would mostly go up to San Jose
to see them because I was just like I want to get
0:33:50.080,0:33:54.880
out of here. Like I just need to like not Yeah.
You had like really awful roommate situations,
0:33:54.880,0:34:00.720
right? Yeah. That and then I was living with a
friend at one point who was so so nice to let
0:34:00.720,0:34:06.960
me like live with her. Um and it was nice. It's
just like her place wasn't very big and she also
0:34:06.960,0:34:11.680
had two cats and another dog that was even bigger
than Ginger. So, it was just a little crowded. So,
0:34:11.680,0:34:16.320
I would always just want to like get away a little
bit from everything cuz it was a lot going on.
0:34:16.320,0:34:20.240
Belle randomly is like, "Oh, we're going to go
to this festival. Like, do you want to go like
0:34:20.240,0:34:26.240
to autistic?" And I was like, "You know what? I'm
down to go. I've never been to a festival." Like
0:34:26.240,0:34:33.440
their Belle always gave very like safe space, very
like no judgment. Sorry. Before we get the whole
0:34:33.440,0:34:39.040
audio sick because so I bought the tickets, days
were going by and I'm like, you know what? Like
0:34:39.040,0:34:45.840
if I'm not their girlfriend by the time that I am
going to this freaking festival, I'm not going.
0:34:45.840,0:34:50.480
Cuz I was like, it's been this long. We talked
this much. We go, we've traveled how many times
0:34:50.480,0:34:56.320
to see each other. I was like, I'm not going to go
if they don't ask me out. And there was one point
0:34:56.320,0:35:02.640
they wanted all of a sudden to take a step back
because they had a dream. something bad happened.
0:35:02.640,0:35:06.960
It included me. It included me. And because they
felt bad after the dream, they were just like,
0:35:06.960,0:35:09.920
"Oh my god, I want to take a step back. Like,
I don't want to move too fast." Whatever. So,
0:35:09.920,0:35:16.240
they had told me that. And I was like, "You've got
to be freaking kidding me." And my Latina came out
0:35:16.240,0:35:21.280
and I was like, "I'm going to be so serious right
now." I was like, "It was a I'm like, that is a
0:35:21.280,0:35:26.160
dream. It didn't happen. It was text." I'm like,
"I I'm like, I'm gonna put everything out there
0:35:26.160,0:35:32.000
right now and be blunt." And I was like, I really
like you and I would love to be in a relationship
0:35:32.000,0:35:37.840
with you. So do with that information what you
will because if you want to take a step back,
0:35:37.840,0:35:44.640
I'm not doing it. And period. They were like on
the way to school going through crisis panicking
0:35:44.640,0:35:50.880
on Cal Train. Well, it was a dream. What was the
dream? It was just a really real dream. I think
0:35:50.880,0:35:56.240
it was something like cheating or something. Oh,
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You had cheated in the
0:35:56.240,0:36:02.480
dream even though we weren't together. Yeah. Yeah.
You had cheated and I think I really really really
0:36:02.480,0:36:08.000
cared about it and like it really made me upset.
So I'm like, "Okay, I don't want I don't want to."
0:36:08.000,0:36:13.920
Yeah. I wasn't mad. Okay. It sounds ridiculous.
Yes. Cuz it was I was annoyed. So I was like,
0:36:13.920,0:36:18.320
"Okay, let's just go past this." Okay. And then
what' you say? They pretty much said like, "I like
0:36:18.320,0:36:22.480
YouTube blah blah like I would want to be in the
institute, whatever." So then we were on the same
0:36:22.480,0:36:29.280
page and then I came up to San Jose again. They
went to Monteray. They were taking me to Monterey
0:36:29.280,0:36:33.520
because I'd never been. And they just wanted me to
see the aquarium. We were driving and we were on
0:36:33.520,0:36:40.800
the way and they turned to me randomly and they're
like, "So, you know how like you've been seeing
0:36:40.800,0:36:49.120
each other like and like not really like talking
to anybody else?" And I was just like, "Yeah."
0:36:49.120,0:36:56.000
There you go. Yeah, we should keep doing that. I
could see this. Yeah, we should keep, you know, we
0:36:56.000,0:37:02.400
They were not looking at me either. I was driving.
No, but you did it. You asked that question while
0:37:02.400,0:37:09.920
you were driving on purpose. And they went, "Yeah,
we should keep doing that." And I literally went,
0:37:09.920,0:37:16.320
"Are you asking me out right now?" And I went,
"Is this your way of asking me out right now?"
0:37:16.320,0:37:24.240
And they're like, "Um, me, yeah." And I went,
"Ask it again." I said, "Ask it, right?" Pretty
0:37:24.240,0:37:29.920
much. Yeah. She's like, "You need to ask like be
better, please." And then just like, "Yeah." Like,
0:37:29.920,0:37:39.360
"Will you be my girlfriend?" Yeah. Like, um, will
you be my girlfriend? Literally that. And I was
0:37:39.360,0:37:48.960
just like I also didn't want to make it like a
huge like why did you do you know me? Obviously
0:37:48.960,0:38:02.560
not I will re ask you to be my girlfriend. But
yeah so what day was that? September 13 2020.
0:38:02.560,0:38:09.760
So that was like Yeah. Yeah. 2021. So it was like
it was an hour or an hour. It was a a year and
0:38:09.760,0:38:16.720
like a few months after you guys met. Yeah. Yep.
It really took that long for me to be I Yeah. I
0:38:16.720,0:38:20.960
I'm I'm kind of disappointed in myself. I was
making fun of them the whole time after that.
0:38:20.960,0:38:25.520
Like before we even got to Monterey, I was just
like, you should keep doing that. You should keep
0:38:25.520,0:38:31.840
doing that. Okay. So, my perspective on this, at
least at the time, only knowing Belle's side of
0:38:31.840,0:38:42.080
the story, I think, you guys matched at um kind of
a weird time for them. And that like what was it
0:38:42.080,0:38:47.840
like eight months that you guys didn't really talk
romantically or anything like during those eight
0:38:47.840,0:38:54.720
months, Belle and I were both like simultaneously
and together kind of doing a lot of like deep
0:38:54.720,0:39:00.480
healing together. Yeah. I had just gotten out of
a longterm relationship. Belle was still healing
0:39:00.480,0:39:05.520
from their relationship and we had just moved in
together and lived together for the first time
0:39:05.520,0:39:12.080
since we were you know since we were still in
high school, right? And so there was a lot of
0:39:12.080,0:39:16.640
like work that we were doing with each other and
like you know we were just healing honestly like
0:39:16.640,0:39:21.360
I don't know how else to describe it other than we
were just healing. I think I think they grew a lot
0:39:21.360,0:39:27.520
you know and I think that like that time needed to
happen. Oh yeah. I wanted them to just like grow a
0:39:27.520,0:39:33.120
little bit, you know. I think that it was like
almost like like the right person, wrong time,
0:39:33.120,0:39:38.720
for sure. And then, you know, I don't know if
this was conscious for you, Bill, but it was
0:39:38.720,0:39:42.800
almost like you knew that you weren't like good
enough for her yet. Yeah. You know, or you weren't
0:39:42.800,0:39:47.360
ready for it yet. And so, like, you did what you
needed to do to like become that person that could
0:39:47.360,0:39:51.440
be a good partner for her. I didn't even think
about that. We had like talked about it before,
0:39:51.440,0:39:58.400
too. And I was like, you know what? like as like
salty as I was in that moment thinking back on him
0:39:58.400,0:40:06.480
like I we would have ruined each other cuz they
weren't ready to be in a relationship. I was like
0:40:06.480,0:40:14.800
baby gay like I hadn't experienced too much yet.
I hadn't really been in not heterosexual and not
0:40:14.800,0:40:22.480
a heterosexual relationship. And so I had still
so much learned and I still had a lot of like
0:40:22.480,0:40:29.040
insecurities and just so many things that like
would I know would have like I would not have
0:40:29.040,0:40:33.680
handled things well if we would have to like deal
with arguments and stuff like that whatever like
0:40:33.680,0:40:40.400
we both of us were not ready. And I think having
gone through the situationship mess that I did,
0:40:40.400,0:40:49.120
like I came out of that like so much more
confident in myself, so much more aware of
0:40:49.120,0:40:58.240
my like self-worth that like no one could tell me
anything. So I was just like I it was like knowing
0:40:58.240,0:41:03.280
I'm not everyone's cup of tea and I don't mind
that. Like I don't need to be and I don't want to
0:41:03.280,0:41:09.600
be like Yeah. It just filters out the people that
Exactly. Exactly. So like I'm like that's who I
0:41:09.600,0:41:16.560
needed to be to be ready to be with them. That's
crazy. I think when we had started talking again
0:41:16.560,0:41:22.720
after like situationship and stuff, I definitely
felt like the energy change. It was even more
0:41:22.720,0:41:27.440
intimidating for them. That's why No, but that's
the thing. Like for me in my past relationships,
0:41:27.440,0:41:32.560
it was like easy, you know? But like for her, for
some reason, she put me she put me in my place a
0:41:32.560,0:41:37.920
lot of the time, which is which was super humbling
because Yeah. Honestly, like I hope it's okay to
0:41:37.920,0:41:44.720
say, but Belle is like the chronically youngest
sibling. Yeah. Like I So there's just it's just
0:41:44.720,0:41:49.200
two of us, right? But then like we also have um
like three step siblings and they're all older
0:41:49.200,0:41:54.560
than me. So Belle is like the youngest youngest
sibling and like you have youngest sibling energy
0:41:54.560,0:42:00.720
sometimes, you know? you're used to everyone just
like babying you, you know, and like here Leslie
0:42:00.720,0:42:04.240
comes along and she's like, "I'm not going to baby
you. I'm going to tell you straight up like how it
0:42:04.240,0:42:10.000
is." And like I think Belle just like they were
like had never had that before. And then also too
0:42:10.000,0:42:16.240
like probably really needed that, you know? To
grow. Mhm. I'm still older though. They thought
0:42:16.240,0:42:21.680
I was really mean at first. You were mean. No,
I wasn't. You were mean. But okay, so September
0:42:21.680,0:42:28.720
13th, that's that's coming up actually, which is
sick because if we ever falls on like Friday the
0:42:28.720,0:42:34.160
13th, we can just go get like tattoos tattoos
together. Hell yeah. Yeah. Which is very much
0:42:34.160,0:42:40.400
us. Yeah. So, I know you guys have been preparing
for this episode and stuff, but like what is it
0:42:40.400,0:42:45.840
like to like, you know, timeline it and put it all
together? I just like explaining like all of this.
0:42:45.840,0:42:51.680
I didn't realize the timeline was so big. Like
I I've known you for five years. Like that's a
0:42:51.680,0:42:56.560
long time. A long time. Sometimes we randomly
think about that and then we're both like,
0:42:56.560,0:43:00.560
"Okay, let's stop thinking about too much time
has passed." I'm like, "Are you sure?" Like,
0:43:00.560,0:43:06.400
"Are you are you really sure?" And I'm like, "Are
you sure? Are you sure?" No, but it's it was cool
0:43:06.400,0:43:11.680
like talking about it. We've never talked about it
like fully in a time. Also, never with you either.
0:43:11.680,0:43:17.120
Yeah. No, I I just know pieces and you know like I
know that like especially the parts where I'm just
0:43:17.120,0:43:22.000
like wait like that's why you were in San Diego.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember I think you
0:43:22.000,0:43:29.440
know we were living at Stokes and like Brad and I
were you know dating at the time and like it was
0:43:29.440,0:43:35.680
I imagine it was tough for you Belle cuz like I
was like you know like prancing around you know
0:43:35.680,0:43:41.200
frolicking with my new her new boy toy. Belle
would text me and I'm like, "You're literally
0:43:41.200,0:43:46.720
fine. Let her be happy." Like, we just happened
to be long distance. Yeah. So, that's what I
0:43:46.720,0:43:52.480
wanted. I feel like Brad's first impression of
me. No, it was I terrifying. No, cuz like So,
0:43:52.480,0:43:57.840
when I when I was really getting to know Brad, I
was like, "Dude, like you and Belle would really
0:43:57.840,0:44:02.640
get along cuz you're so similar, right?" And I
hyped that up so much. You just can't see it right
0:44:02.640,0:44:07.280
now. And then I would bring Brad home and he would
meet Belle and Belle's like emo and depressed
0:44:07.280,0:44:14.160
because they're missing Leslie. And Brad's like,
"Really?" I was like, "No." Brad's like, "I don't
0:44:14.160,0:44:21.680
see it." Trust me, they're just going through it
right now because they're emo and sad. But yeah,
0:44:21.680,0:44:26.800
no, that's what I wanted to ask is that like you
guys were long distance for such a long time in
0:44:26.800,0:44:31.440
your relationship and then you moved in together.
Like what was that like? That must have been such
0:44:31.440,0:44:36.480
an adjustment. We were long distance I would say
from like once we like officially started dating.
0:44:36.480,0:44:46.560
So like September almost a full year because I
ended up moving up here in July of 2022. So it's
0:44:46.560,0:44:51.360
like almost a full year of long distance which is
kind of crazy. Yeah. I didn't I mean it felt like
0:44:51.360,0:44:57.280
that but it also didn't feel like that. Yeah.
Like you guys would FaceTime all the time. Um
0:44:57.280,0:45:02.880
at the time Belle was still in school. I was still
in school. Yeah. Yeah. So, and Leslie, you were in
0:45:02.880,0:45:09.920
school, too. But I think us being in school and
being long distance, like when we would see each
0:45:09.920,0:45:15.840
other and just like both like understanding that
like you know what, like maybe we can't really
0:45:15.840,0:45:19.920
go out and do all these cute things and like have
fun when we see each other. Like we kind of just
0:45:19.920,0:45:26.240
have to lock in and do our work. As much as it
sucked in the moment, it was really helpful. I
0:45:26.240,0:45:31.360
feel like us being on the same page in that sense
and prioritizing school and being okay with just
0:45:31.360,0:45:36.320
spending time with each other in that way made
me feel I don't know it just kind of made things
0:45:36.320,0:45:39.840
easier for me knowing that you weren't so like
okay but let's go do something okay but let's go
0:45:39.840,0:45:47.120
do something like they never forced me to like not
prioritize school and that's still true I think
0:45:47.120,0:45:53.680
to this day. Oh yeah I think living together
um because I never lived with like a partner
0:45:53.680,0:46:00.000
before. I've always just, you know, either couple
nights or something, but actually living with you,
0:46:00.000,0:46:04.560
I was really, really excited, but there's a lot
of things that we didn't know about each other,
0:46:04.560,0:46:12.320
especially living with each other. Um, obviously
now we've like molded into the same like you
0:46:12.320,0:46:21.120
figured it out. Yeah, we I understand where you
were trying. In the beginning it was just one the
0:46:21.120,0:46:32.400
moving process was chaotic. Yeah. And so hard and
so that was a test. No, it was like it was it was
0:46:32.400,0:46:38.880
rough. Like we were not okay. It wasn't like like
between you guys like it was it was pretty tough
0:46:38.880,0:46:45.840
like even just getting down here and I remember
like how bad it was. It's like we were still like
0:46:45.840,0:46:51.280
literally still freshly a new couple and having
to deal with moving. Like that's not something
0:46:51.280,0:46:59.440
people typically deal with right away like that. I
also got CO. Yes. Before that they had CO I was so
0:46:59.440,0:47:06.320
sick not COVID something else and like moving and
also dealing with Ginger Ginger cuz she liked to
0:47:06.320,0:47:10.480
be next to us but like in the way but also scared
of everything. So it was just like so many things
0:47:10.480,0:47:17.120
at once. So that was definitely like a test. And
like in the beginning at one point I definitely
0:47:17.120,0:47:23.040
felt like I was like maybe this happened a
little too fast. But the moving in part. Yeah,
0:47:23.040,0:47:29.440
I know. I felt the same way. just like moving in
together and like again learning how the other
0:47:29.440,0:47:36.000
person is like on a dayto-day and living with
each other on top of us both dealing with school
0:47:36.000,0:47:41.840
on top of me being at a new job and then driving
to freaking Monteray all the time and Belle having
0:47:41.840,0:47:53.280
to also very quickly kind of co-parent Ginger and
her quirks. Yeah. Yeah. Ginger had um she had a
0:47:53.280,0:48:00.480
lot of like health issues and anxiety and anxiety.
Yeah. So I think we love Ginger and all but it was
0:48:00.480,0:48:06.800
definitely a test in our relationship. There was a
lot of learning patience for a good amount of time
0:48:06.800,0:48:12.640
in the beginning of our relationship that I think
that was probably the hardest part of everything.
0:48:12.640,0:48:18.720
Like everything was still hard but that little
that aspect kind of just Yeah. And I remember that
0:48:18.720,0:48:23.040
too. Like this was right when this was around the
time when we moved in here, right? Yeah. Cuz we
0:48:23.040,0:48:27.360
were only at Stokes for like Yeah. We were only at
Stokes for a few months. I think Brad and I like
0:48:27.360,0:48:32.800
we we're seeing we we understood we were like, you
know, they were long distance for such a long time
0:48:32.800,0:48:38.720
then now it's like you guys don't have any space
like you're on top of each other all the time like
0:48:38.720,0:48:44.000
you know you have you share one room there's no
way for you guys to like take a step back and like
0:48:44.000,0:48:49.200
you know I remember Belle you would like you would
have to drive somewhere like you know into the
0:48:49.200,0:48:53.920
mountains or something to like you know just be
able to breathe breathe and like compose yourself
0:48:53.920,0:49:01.600
and stuff And like Leslie, oh my god, like you
were driving to Monterey like four times a week
0:49:01.600,0:49:07.360
um working full-time and you know STEM was or your
STEM major was like you know really picking up on
0:49:07.360,0:49:13.040
top of Ginger too. Um I definitely remember that
really tough time in your guys' relationship. But
0:49:13.040,0:49:18.720
I do know and I remember and I I felt it like
that shift when you guys were able to like pull
0:49:18.720,0:49:24.400
yourself out of it. Like how did that how did you
guys do that? because you know it was like night
0:49:24.400,0:49:30.800
and day. It it definitely was not an overnight
thing because yeah there was a lot of things that
0:49:30.800,0:49:38.800
we had to fix separate like I had to a lot to to
fix. I think dude I totally lost my I think the
0:49:38.800,0:49:47.120
biggest step the biggest step that that helped us
like start to be able to like move forward for the
0:49:47.120,0:49:56.800
better was acknowledging and accepting my flaws
not your flaws just that you needed a little more
0:49:56.800,0:50:02.800
help than like the typical person. Yeah. And you,
as scary as it was in the beginning, like they
0:50:02.800,0:50:08.880
were terrified to do it, but so willing to look
for the help that they needed. And because of
0:50:08.880,0:50:17.520
that, like it definitely saved our relationship.
I had to learn that I couldn't control everything.
0:50:17.520,0:50:23.920
like literally like being like an older sibling,
being the eldest daughter and having a younger
0:50:23.920,0:50:31.760
male sibling and like Latino like culture like
that dynamic immediately I as the oldest eldest
0:50:31.760,0:50:37.360
daughter like get so much responsibility put on me
so fast that like I know how to do everything. I
0:50:37.360,0:50:42.640
have been told to like how to handle everything,
how to take care of everyone, how to take care of
0:50:42.640,0:50:49.520
myself, everything. So I was very much used to
acting that way and just again like controlling
0:50:49.520,0:50:57.360
things and I would have to catch myself speaking
to them in a certain way. The situation I wouldn't
0:50:57.360,0:51:02.800
make it better. Yeah. It would it would escalate
it. So it would just be both like back and forth.
0:51:02.800,0:51:08.640
Yeah. It was ugly. No, I love what you just said
though, Leslie. It's like you know Belle obviously
0:51:08.640,0:51:15.600
like you had stuff that you needed to figure out,
right? But like it wasn't just your fault. Like
0:51:15.600,0:51:20.320
it sounds like Leslie, you're like acknowledging
that. It's just it's like that a lot of the time,
0:51:20.320,0:51:24.480
right? Where it's not just one person's fault.
I think it's like it's not even fault. It's just
0:51:24.480,0:51:31.200
like kind of how you guys both, you know,
contribute to a certain pattern or dynamic.
0:51:31.200,0:51:38.560
Especially like before I even knew about like
why you were feeling or reacting in the way
0:51:38.560,0:51:43.760
that you were, like I had no idea. And just in my
head, I was like, if this is just how they are,
0:51:43.760,0:51:48.400
before I learned how to like regulate my own
emotions and not talk to them a certain way,
0:51:48.400,0:51:54.560
like I would just be adding more to the flame. And
then once everything was in the open and Belle was
0:51:54.560,0:51:59.840
getting the help that they needed, I also like did
some like self-reflecting and I was like, "Okay,
0:51:59.840,0:52:08.960
well to be able to help them in that like journey
like I need to also know how to like speak to them
0:52:08.960,0:52:16.560
or just like like do what I can to not just
add to Yes. like for myself and also for them
0:52:16.560,0:52:22.880
because it's like it was scary and it was new and
it was a lot that they were having to deal with on
0:52:22.880,0:52:32.400
their own too. So I just I just obviously I see
the difference from how it was before to now. I
0:52:32.400,0:52:38.720
feel like we can get through anything. Like any
like problem can be addressed now whether it's
0:52:38.720,0:52:43.840
like the smallest thing or something big like
it can be addressed without feeling like like
0:52:43.840,0:52:48.960
someone would take it like personally. Yeah. It
almost felt like every conversation that we had
0:52:48.960,0:52:57.280
before could lead to an argument. And it wasn't
even like trying to argue. It was just I like if I
0:52:57.280,0:53:04.160
were to address something like wanting to address
it to like talk about it and then move on with it
0:53:04.160,0:53:11.440
like it would never really take that path. It
would just take all these other bumps in like
0:53:11.440,0:53:18.960
in the road to get to where we wanted to be, but
it would be so draining. It took a lot for us to
0:53:18.960,0:53:25.280
get to the point where we communicate now because
we're like we we like to establish like um safe
0:53:25.280,0:53:31.600
space like now especially Oh yeah, we can talk
about anything like I always speak to her with
0:53:31.600,0:53:38.960
like an open mind and I know you do too. Um so
I think communicating especially about like our
0:53:38.960,0:53:47.760
mental health is super important to us. Yeah. It's
like you guys um learned how to talk to each other
0:53:47.760,0:53:54.080
like kind of the hard way cuz I think when we were
long distance, not that we put up a front, but we
0:53:54.080,0:53:58.080
would be going through our own stuff and then at
when we talked to each other, we put up it was
0:53:58.080,0:54:03.520
already kind of like you had maybe processed it
a little bit or Yeah. Or it was also just easier
0:54:03.520,0:54:08.240
to not fully address it either because we were
just because we didn't have to be on the phone
0:54:08.240,0:54:13.600
the whole time. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And now here
it's like there's nowhere to hide. Yeah. You know,
0:54:13.600,0:54:18.240
like you have to you have to figure it out. Like
even sometimes like if we're like nervous to bring
0:54:18.240,0:54:24.000
something up like Bel said like we'll literally be
like okay like safe space like just to immediately
0:54:24.000,0:54:29.600
like set that expectation. We legit we legit
say that I say it like out loud like this is
0:54:29.600,0:54:36.400
a safe space just to be like no matter what gets
said like we are going to like think before we
0:54:36.400,0:54:41.600
speak and take everyone's like feelings into
consideration like literally making it clear
0:54:41.600,0:54:47.760
that like what I want from what I'm about to say
is not for anything to like escalate or whatever
0:54:47.760,0:54:52.720
and not that it would but it's just helpful. It
is helpful to say to like set the stage for like
0:54:52.720,0:54:56.560
the conversation, especially in just like if I
were to be doing something or whatever, if you
0:54:56.560,0:54:59.520
came up to me and said like save space and want
to talk about, I'm like, I would put everything
0:54:59.520,0:55:05.280
down. I'd be like, okay, like full attention.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Honestly,
0:55:05.280,0:55:10.880
it's almost like safe space is that word that
not only sets the stage for the conversation,
0:55:10.880,0:55:16.000
but like it's like, oh, this like I need to give
my full attention to this person right now. Yeah.
0:55:16.000,0:55:20.720
It isn't about me. like they're saying safe space
because like they want to share something that you
0:55:20.720,0:55:26.480
know is maybe vulnerable or you know and like I
just need to be able to focus on them and not take
0:55:26.480,0:55:31.440
something personally. Exactly. Yeah, that's that's
a good way to put it. I love that. Well, thank you
0:55:31.440,0:55:40.000
for sharing. Honestly, tears. So, I'm curious,
honestly, like on a lighter note, um, you know,
0:55:40.000,0:55:43.680
something that you guys have alluded to here and
there is like, you know, Belle, obviously you're
0:55:43.680,0:55:48.720
Filipino. Leslie, you're Latina, you're from the
Midwest. Bel, you're from the Bay Area very much
0:55:48.720,0:55:56.720
so. Yeah. Yeah. And so, they're just missing the
hat right now. Especially Belle, like you've never
0:55:56.720,0:56:02.000
dated anyone that wasn't Asian before. And you
know, like on top of that, it's like you guys are
0:56:02.000,0:56:09.360
a queer relationship, right? And so like there's
all of this stuff that like makes up the identity
0:56:09.360,0:56:14.000
of your relationship, right? And so tell me a
little bit about that and how and what's that like
0:56:14.000,0:56:19.520
just like having I know that we're both different
ethnicities but we're both something that I was
0:56:19.520,0:56:25.040
sharing in common even from the beginning is that
we're very family oriented which I think is like
0:56:25.040,0:56:31.680
number one priority for me to be with someone who
you know would honestly take their family first
0:56:31.680,0:56:36.880
which I mean because I would do the same. Mhm. I
remember Belle was always very like one caught off
0:56:36.880,0:56:43.200
guard but also really liked that I talked about
my family so much like my mom and my brother
0:56:43.200,0:56:48.080
especially and like literally always called them
like I would you've seen it. I FaceTime my brother
0:56:48.080,0:56:55.520
like randomly almost every particular be the most
random things. Something different also is like
0:56:55.520,0:57:02.640
you guys say I love you. Oh yeah. We didn't we
didn't really grow up with that. Yeah. Whenever
0:57:02.640,0:57:08.640
like it's when whenever Leslie is on FaceTime with
her family like I really love it about how like
0:57:08.640,0:57:12.720
you guys even can't you you can't hang up yet
until you say I love you back. Do you want to
0:57:12.720,0:57:20.160
say I love you? I'm surprised I'm surprised they
didn't cringe harder than that honestly. What? No,
0:57:20.160,0:57:25.680
seriously. Cuz like I it's like something that
I'm like a like you guys like really like I don't
0:57:25.680,0:57:32.880
know. I think that we our family says I love you
in very like kind of acts of service kind of ways,
0:57:32.880,0:57:38.320
you know, like it's it's not that we don't love
each other obviously. It's just like it it's
0:57:38.320,0:57:46.640
interesting to hear my family specifically like
growing up it was always like literally like so
0:57:46.640,0:57:52.560
like I would do that to my dad and to my mom and
to my brother and they would do it back and as
0:57:52.560,0:57:59.360
we got older we didn't do that as much but then
the I love you was so always there and I think my
0:57:59.360,0:58:04.960
brother low key like was the one that solidified
it more as we got older because even like when I
0:58:04.960,0:58:09.760
lived back home he wouldn't And if I was mad at
him, he wouldn't leave my room until I said it
0:58:09.760,0:58:15.920
back. Really? I really can't even imagine that.
No, because Huito was so like, you know, and like
0:58:15.920,0:58:20.080
it's so cute hearing him say like like she would
say it and he's literally about to click, okay,
0:58:20.080,0:58:25.520
love you. Love you too. Bye. Well, you guys
like Leslie, you've spent obviously a lot of
0:58:25.520,0:58:30.320
time with our family because our family's here.
But Belle, you know, you've spent a lot of time
0:58:30.320,0:58:36.880
with um Wanito, Leslie's brother, and you've also
visited in Chicago before, so you've got to like,
0:58:36.880,0:58:40.880
you know, get to know her family a bit more. But
like, what's that like? What's the difference?
0:58:40.880,0:58:51.200
I'm curious. Oh. Oh, our Well, Belle's Okay. My
family, I think it's sometimes like everyone both
0:58:51.200,0:58:58.080
sides is so so nice and like very fun in like
their own ways. But I think when Belle's like
0:58:58.080,0:59:05.680
around my family, it's like a different type
of outgoing. Um, I don't even know how to put
0:59:05.680,0:59:12.240
it. Yeah, you go first. I just don't think I've
ever been around like a Mexican family before
0:59:12.240,0:59:21.840
like that. Like definite culture shock. Like both
sides want to feed you, but my side will literally
0:59:21.840,0:59:27.040
put it in front of your face, like shove it down
talking about the band. I like Can you explain?
0:59:27.040,0:59:31.200
No. Okay. Well, it was birthday and we actually
surprised him. We went It was the last time I
0:59:31.200,0:59:37.200
went to Chicago. We're a vibe, y'all. It's a vibe,
you know, and I was with I was with her family and
0:59:37.200,0:59:42.160
like all your cousins and stuff that she's talked
about a lot. So, it was cool to like see faces and
0:59:42.160,0:59:48.240
kind of match them with their names. Um, but that
was all before the music happened. So, my son was
0:59:48.240,0:59:56.000
still up. Okay. So my stepdad is in Abanda, so
regional Mexican music and he's the singer and
0:59:56.000,1:00:02.240
like for Januito surprise birthday he brought his
band. He wasn't performing but the brand the band
1:00:02.240,1:00:10.240
came and mind you before the band is even there
like my family both sides mom and dad's side like
1:00:10.240,1:00:19.120
they are the life of the party if there's alcohol
it's going to be a great time. Even like the my
1:00:19.120,1:00:23.920
uncle my cousins will be dancing. My uncles and
aunts will be dancing. Our grandparents can be
1:00:23.920,1:00:28.560
up in there dancing, not sitting down. Amazing.
Okay. Well, the music at that point was already
1:00:28.560,1:00:35.760
so loud. So, we had to preface to Belle. I was
like, "When the band comes in, it's going to get
1:00:35.760,1:00:40.880
you will not be able to hear yourself. You will
feel it in your body in a different way than at a
1:00:40.880,1:00:45.040
rave." I told my cousins, I was like, "Oh, Belle's
never experienced the bandan." They're like, "Oh,
1:00:45.040,1:00:50.240
you're in for a great time. Yeah, she was like
her her arm was around. Oh, you think this is
1:00:50.240,1:00:56.400
loud? Just wait. Just wait. Then I And then they
came in. You cannot hear yourself. I can't even
1:00:56.400,1:01:03.280
imagine this. You cuz I'm sure none of you guys
no one. So like it was not a mariachi. All right.
1:01:03.280,1:01:11.520
It's different. It It was It was It was I don't It
was No, it was It was so lit though. like I don't
1:01:11.520,1:01:16.240
think I'm there to that point to be on the dance
floor even though like all your cousins wanted me
1:01:16.240,1:01:21.120
to. I like can't bring myself to do that yet. And
it was the first it was like an introduction, you
1:01:21.120,1:01:29.280
know? I feel like once a lot of people at once,
but luckily it wasn't like about you or about me.
1:01:29.280,1:01:33.680
It was about my brother. So it's like Yeah. Yeah.
The attention wasn't on. Yeah, for sure. Wait,
1:01:33.680,1:01:38.960
can I pee fast? So sorry. I'm so sorry. Run,
bulletproof, run. Yeah, you got to run. What?
1:01:40.960,1:01:48.320
Everyone on depot and offer up think thinks that
I'm a boy. I mean, do you blame them? You're
1:01:48.320,1:01:58.320
definitely not a girl. Okay, so unfortunately, we
have to wrap up soon. Okay, but I do want to ask
1:01:58.320,1:02:05.440
what is next? You know, like Leslie, you're still
in school, but you're going to graduate soon. Um,
1:02:05.440,1:02:13.760
finally. So, yeah. like what what what are you
guys up to after? Okay. I graduate in December
1:02:13.760,1:02:26.000
of this year. Yeah, you do. And then and then
pretty much from that time until like Juneish,
1:02:26.000,1:02:32.160
we'll just be trying to work as much as possible
and just save up as much save up as much as
1:02:32.160,1:02:41.840
possible because we want to move to Chicago.
I'm taking them with me to the cold and hope
1:02:41.840,1:02:47.600
that whole time is just going to be working and
working and also just trying to sell stuff that
1:02:47.600,1:02:53.440
we don't want to take with us. I want to try
to look for an apartment before moving and just
1:02:53.440,1:02:56.800
have like a little gap where we'll probably have
to just be at my mom's place for like a week or
1:02:56.800,1:03:03.200
two so we don't have to go straight. Yeah. Oh my god. We originally were gonna drive, but now with
1:03:03.200,1:03:09.360
the current state of the country, it is scary to
drive. Especially through where you would drive.
1:03:09.360,1:03:15.920
Exactly. Exactly. So now I'm plan on shipping my
car, shipping everything. Carlo's going to go on
1:03:15.920,1:03:24.000
a plane. Yep. Once we get to Chicago, I think it's
just going to be really exciting figuring out what
1:03:24.000,1:03:29.280
we'll be doing. But I think it's just really
exciting for Belle. I'm really excited for I'm
1:03:29.280,1:03:34.160
really excited about rooting for Belle. This is
like this is like their character development. I
1:03:34.160,1:03:40.080
was like, you don't know how good it feels to move
away from home and go somewhere where literally no
1:03:40.080,1:03:44.560
one knows a damn thing about you. Yeah. That's
that's the part that I'm excited because I've
1:03:44.560,1:03:49.920
never The farthest that I moved away was like 40
minutes away in San San Francisco. So Belle is
1:03:49.920,1:03:56.080
going to have so many like career opportunities,
more than I will, which is okay. But like it's
1:03:56.080,1:04:01.360
just crazy. And I think that's what's also making
me like so excited for them because the options
1:04:01.360,1:04:06.880
are like endless for you. Like it's it's if you
like keep doing like photography, videography,
1:04:06.880,1:04:13.040
and like all or editing for someone like it's not
going to be limited to tech companies like it is
1:04:13.040,1:04:18.800
here. That's so true. Yeah. I'm looking forward to
that part, too, cuz I love like living in cities,
1:04:18.800,1:04:22.240
too. So, I think there's going to be
a lot of opportunities there for me,
1:04:22.240,1:04:27.760
too. And I just I hate it here. Yeah. Honestly,
like me and Belle moving in together in San San
1:04:27.760,1:04:32.240
Jose was supposed to be temporary. This was kind
of just a stopover because of the the pandemic,
1:04:32.240,1:04:38.400
right? And 5 years later, we're still here.
So, well, I'm excited for you, Leslie, because,
1:04:38.400,1:04:43.760
you know, this is the pitfall of having two very
family oriented people that have families on the
1:04:43.760,1:04:48.320
other end. Yeah. So, it's like this is your
time. You've been here since 2018. You know,
1:04:48.320,1:04:53.120
you paid your dues. I did. and whoever however
long you guys end up being there. It's like,
1:04:53.120,1:04:57.760
you know, we'll figure that out later on. But
but yeah, Belle, I think that like you've been
1:04:57.760,1:05:04.240
kind of soulsearching for a really long time. This
move is going to be huge for you. I'm excited to
1:05:04.240,1:05:10.720
just have like a clean slate. Um, but I'm also
going to it's it's going to be hard not living
1:05:10.720,1:05:18.880
with you. Okay. Okay. We can't get into the mushy.
No, no, no. Stop. Okay. No, but I'm like seriously
1:05:18.880,1:05:26.240
because like you know me like like so like in the
back of inside and out and like you know how to
1:05:26.240,1:05:31.120
communicate with me and stuff and you guide me
through a lot of stuff. So I think moving I'm
1:05:31.120,1:05:37.200
definitely going to have to do that myself. Yeah.
Like figure out how to figure out how to navigate
1:05:37.200,1:05:43.200
everything. Like I that's why I'm so excited. I
know what I'm doing. I trust me. No, I I trust
1:05:43.200,1:05:46.960
you. I think Yeah, you're not going to be alone.
You have like, you know, a support system over
1:05:46.960,1:05:53.440
there, too. Yeah, 100%. I And I'm just like very
curious like what version of you I'm going to meet
1:05:53.440,1:05:58.960
after. At least Belle thinks that like Michigan
looks like the ocean, so they won't feel like
1:05:58.960,1:06:04.240
they're too far away from the coast. Okay. A
landlock state. But no, when we went there,
1:06:04.240,1:06:08.560
I'm like, I swear I see mountains. Like I The
entire time I was like, no, I swear. And I'm like,
1:06:08.560,1:06:14.000
you're literally delusional right now. I was like,
your brain is making you see things. It is flat.
1:06:14.000,1:06:18.720
Yeah. I It's living convince yourself it's the
ocean until you go and taste the water. Oh, yeah.
1:06:18.720,1:06:25.040
Yeah. Don't do that. Yeah. Don't do that. No.
Living living with mountains and stuff, it it's
1:06:25.040,1:06:30.560
just like programmed in my brain. Like I I thought
I saw a silhouette for some No, honestly, after
1:06:30.560,1:06:35.120
moving back from San Diego, I started appreciating
the mountains more. Really? But like I never saw
1:06:35.120,1:06:38.480
them when I was living here, you know? But now
like you know, I drive to yoga and I'm just like,
1:06:38.480,1:06:43.520
"Oh my god." Like I in San Diego, I was like
those were mountains to me. Like the hills were
1:06:43.520,1:06:48.720
mountains to me and I was like, "Wow." And then
Bay Area going on the 17th for the first time. I
1:06:48.720,1:06:52.720
was like, "Oh, those are mountains." Yeah, these
are mountains. Oh my god. You haven't even been
1:06:52.720,1:06:59.360
to Tahoe? Nope. Those are mountains. Oh [ __ ]
Um, okay. So, I'm going to do one. Unfortunately,
1:06:59.360,1:07:04.560
we only have time for one rapid fire question, and
it's going to be You guys are each gonna have your
1:07:04.560,1:07:11.760
own answer. Okay. So, what is one thing that you
find the other person does that's really cute?
1:07:14.480,1:07:20.880
What? I don't know. H. Let me think. Yeah, you
go first. No, you go first. You obviously have
1:07:20.880,1:07:25.920
an answer already. No, because I just knew you're
probably going to say a bunch of things. I think
1:07:25.920,1:07:32.320
Go on. No, it's okay. No. Okay. This is funny.
Cute. And it's like the most like smallest thing,
1:07:32.320,1:07:39.200
but like Belle, they're not they they're not
like the most feminine person sometimes. And like
1:07:39.200,1:07:43.120
sometimes it could literally be like they'll be
like and like just like their hands go like this.
1:07:43.120,1:07:50.560
They be like, "Oh, thank you." Where did that come
from? And I'm like, but it's just so cute. Like
1:07:50.560,1:07:57.680
it's so like delicate. Yes. And they're not that
I actually haven't seen that. So I'm going to look
1:07:57.680,1:08:03.520
up for it now. Or wait, Belle like scrunches their
nose randomly a lot. And if they scrunch their
1:08:03.520,1:08:09.360
nose, their their dimple on this side comes out.
You have a dimple? And it's my favorite thing.
1:08:09.360,1:08:15.360
Yeah, because it's always you licking your lips
and like your nose goes whatever. I didn't even
1:08:15.360,1:08:22.400
know. I love it. Yes. Yes. So cute. Okay, I have
my answer. It's not bad. It's It's cute. Um Well,
1:08:22.400,1:08:31.120
not just say it. No, it's okay. So, wherever we
go, we have to get a drink first. Like in order
1:08:31.120,1:08:39.280
in order for us to go places and Dun in order for
me to be willing to go errands with more than one
1:08:39.280,1:08:44.640
stop, they need to get me a drink. So for me to
be willing to go that's very like it could be
1:08:44.640,1:08:51.680
any drink and sometimes it's like 11 12 at night
and she's like I want something. She looked at
1:08:51.680,1:08:56.560
me. I'll be like like what are you going to do
about it? Like do you want a drink? Is that it?
1:08:56.560,1:09:06.800
Is that the cute thing? Yeah, it's it's adorable.
[Laughter] Oh my god, guys. It has been an hour
1:09:06.800,1:09:11.280
and a half. Dang. Honestly, I knew this was going
to happen cuz we are all chatter boxes with each
1:09:11.280,1:09:14.960
other. Like, there was no way. Ever. Like, we
need to have This is not even We need to have
1:09:14.960,1:09:19.040
our own podcast. Yeah, we just need to have a
podcast with the four of us and the dogs. Like
1:09:19.040,1:09:24.400
and comment if you'd like to see a part two of us.
Part two. Oh my god. We can do a followup after
1:09:24.400,1:09:29.840
you guys move to Chicago and how Carlo's doing in
the cold because I'm worried for these two. Yeah,
1:09:29.840,1:09:35.440
dude. They cannot handle the cold. So, the next
time we'll see Bella and Leslie will maybe be
1:09:35.440,1:09:40.800
when they're in Chicago, but thank you guys so
much for being so open and vulnerable with me.
1:09:40.800,1:09:46.400
I know it's a lot to share. It was so great to
have you guys on. Thank you for having us. I'm
1:09:46.400,1:09:53.440
sorry about our son. I know that that that's going
to be Now he's like out. Yeah. Now you want to see
1:09:53.440,1:10:00.080
if anyone wanted to follow your relationship
online. Like is there a place where they could
1:10:00.080,1:10:05.520
follow you? My Instagram is open. It is. Yeah.
Okay. What's your Instagram? It's not private.
1:10:05.520,1:10:14.960
Leslie Lie E and extra E at the N period. No dot
X. That's it. Well, I mean Belle, you don't have a
1:10:14.960,1:10:21.120
public Instagram, but you do have follow directed
by Belle Instagram. Yeah, she fe she she you guys
1:10:21.120,1:10:27.680
feature in it a couple times. Yeah. Yeah. And if
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