Episode 1 - High school sweethearts, growing up together, and a love that’s grounded in faith
Welcome to the first episode of Ordinary Love—a podcast where I sit down with couples and celebrate their love story! Join me as I hear about the big, small, beautiful, sometimes messy, and always special ordinary moments that make relationships incredibly extraordinary.
In this episode of Ordinary Love, I’m joined by Jacob and Robyn, who are both full time students navigating college, work, family and their 7-year-long relationship.
They share with us…
♡ How Jacob and Robyn met and fell in love
♡ Young love and awkward first kisses
♡ How faith and God keeps their relationship grounded
♡The “Red String Theory”
♡ Feeling insecure and building trust
♡ Being together for 7 years and growing up together
...And more!
Scroll down for episode transcript ♡
Episode Transcript
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[Music] I think we're good. Okay. Okay. Well,
hello guys. Hello. Welcome to the first episode of
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the podcast ever. Thank you for having us. Yeah.
Yeah. How do you guys feel? I'm excited. You're
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excited? Excited? Um, nervous. Hopefully,
we're relatable a little bit. I know. No,
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you guys definitely will be. Well, I mean,
actually, I don't know how many people can
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relate to being middle school sweethearts, but
high school. High school. High school. Same same.
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Same. Same. Really? Was it high school? Yeah.
Okay. Wow. It just feels like it's been so long.
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I know. For real. Yeah. Jake is my cousin. Um,
and Robyn is his partner. They've been together
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for how long? Seven years now. Seven years. And
how old are you guys? 22. 22. Okay. Okay. So,
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high school sweethearts, not quite middle school
sweethearts. So, yeah. Thank you for being here.
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Thank you for allowing allowing you guys' stories
to be probably the worst episode of this show.
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That's all right. For real. We do not mind. So,
um well, I'd really love to start just kind of at
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the beginning, you know. Um it was funny. Jake and
I Jake just recently told me the origins of your
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guys' relationship kind of for the first time
when we were out that camping trip and you were
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talking about and I was like I actually don't know
anything about this surprisingly. Yeah. Like we've
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never really I just came out of nowhere pretty
much. Well, no, it just feels like you've always
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just been there, right? Well, that too. So, I
don't know. I don't know who wants to start. I
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would obviously love to hear your side again,
Jake, but you know, I haven't heard your side,
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Ramen, so we can maybe start with you. Okay. Um,
so I like literally have like the dates like on my
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head, like on the top of my head. So it was the
first day of confirmation. It was September 29,
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2017. 2017. Yeah. So that's like the first day I
ever met Jake. We were seated at the same table.
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um like for like the first day um with like
a couple other people. Um I actually had my
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childhood best friend seated at the same table
and I think your middle school best friend. Oh no,
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I didn't I didn't know Mark, but um sorry to put
names out there. I think Gabriel was No, it was
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it was Mark. Oh, it was Mark. Shout out to Mark.
Shout out to Mark, my dog. Um but no, yeah, it was
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a table of four. Um it was me um a confirmation
classmate that we had also played basketball so
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we were kind of close in that aspect. Um and then
like Robin said her and her childhood best friend
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we were all kind of seated at the same table and
this was during your guys's prep for confirmation.
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It was the first class. It was the first class.
Oh, okay. It was kind of just like first day
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of school. Yeah, pretty much. It was like just
like introductions and like getting to know like
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obviously like our peers like cuz we're we were
kind of like a really big class. Um so we have two
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classrooms but Fate chose the one classroom at the
same table I guess. So we were there together. Um,
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and then honestly just like the vivid memory I
have is like we had like a big like piece of like
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poster paper and then we were just like writing
I think about ourselves or whatever and then
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um I just remember him like teasing me cuz I like
I grew up with like a lot of like boy cousins like
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before like my little cousin was born it was just
me and my other girl cousin out of like I don't
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know like millions. Yeah. Like 10. I don't even
know. But I was kind of like I guess like tomboy
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I guess. So I like I had a lot of Jordans and
stuff like that. I grew up like a lot of that.
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So I told them that table that and he was like
teasing me for some reason like he was like well
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cuz you have to think like as a as a kid as a
fresh in freshman year um I didn't have it I
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didn't have any like Jordans and stuff growing up.
So then when you meet someone especially a girl
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um who has that stuff I'm like oh that's kind of
cool. like you don't expect that. Yeah. Like he
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was teasing me about it. So that's like the one
memory like I remember. And then at the end of
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it like we put our Instagram like ats on the paper
and then like he followed me but I had a boyfriend
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at the time. Oh, I did not know this. Maybe you
told I don't know. Yeah. I like didn't accept his
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request but I did tell my childhood best friend
at the table. I was like he's kind of cute. I
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was just like kind of like admiring him. Yeah.
Um, so like that was just like kind of how like
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we met each other and stuff and then we didn't
really like interreact after that cuz I think
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um we kind of got like separated or like different
classrooms. Yeah. So like like Rob said um there
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was a really big confirmation class. Um so we were
split up into two classrooms. Um and we weren't
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set on a classroom for the whole year. Like we
would move around and stuff. So we would be in the
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same classes but never at the same table. you're
kind of just like never crossing paths truly. Um,
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and also like I was playing basketball at the
time and it made it really hard to go to like
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I missed a lot of confirmation classes because
those classes were on Fridays and I would have
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games at the same time. Yeah. Um, and it got
to a point where like I almost got kicked
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out because I was missing so many games. I
was missing so many classes. Oh, you almost
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got kicked out of confirmation, right? Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that you could do that. So,
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no. Yes. Like my mom got involved. She was like,
"Hey, dude. like he's trying to be a student
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athlete, but he's also coming here trying to like
bolster his faith. Why are you limiting that? So,
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it it was like a very special exception um for me.
So, then when the basketball season finally ended,
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all of my Fridays were kind of dedicated to combo
after that. Yeah. So, um I think fast forward,
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I think it was either January or February, we
had like um like a one-day like retreat. We
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went to like a Catholic high school. Um, and we
were grouped by last names and his last name is
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obviously E and then mine is H. So, we were in
the same group. It was a really tiny group. Um,
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just cuz again like we had like a really big
class. So, um, we're in the same group and then
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our our leader was like, "Okay, like we all need
to like exchange phone numbers so like in case
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like one of us gets lost, like we can text one
another or whatever." So like we kind of just
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hung out that whole day cuz we were kind of had
to because we were in the whole group. So that's
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like kind of like how I got his number. Like
it wasn't like a mutual like you know, oh can
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I get your number like type of thing? It was all
through church. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much. So Oh,
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this is just circumstance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So it wasn't like your typical like you know
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like first date type of stuff. So that's how I
got his number. And then fast forward to March,
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um his like best friend at the time, I actually
found out like he was a really like mutual like
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family member. So I saw him at a family party. Um
and then he sends Jacob, I think like a picture
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of us together. Yeah. At the time, my friend was
also in the confirmation with us. Um so that's how
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that kind of relationship with Robin like started.
Um, and then them knowing each other, he sends me
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like a snap. I'm saying like, "Hey, guess who I'm
with?" So, I FaceTime him. Yeah. I'm like, "Hey,
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dude. Like, it's good to like good to see you, I
guess." Um, it's crazy that you guys are related.
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Um, and then we started a group chat that day.
Yeah. The three of you. The three of us. Then we
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just started like hanging out, becoming friends.
Oh, cool. Were you still in a relationship at that
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time? Yeah. So, that was the thing. I like kind of
we were kind of like in a really like weird place
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like I kind of like we kind of like drifted apart
and like we were not on good terms I think since
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that February. Um so like I kind of like I think
the saying is like you grieve the relationship
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right like during the time. So actually fast
forward to that after that um in like March
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I think like or April early April. Yeah. Yeah.
like early April, we went to our weekend retreat
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for confirmation. And then that day that I left, I
broke up with my ex cuz I was just like I like it
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was just like something that was weighing on me
that like so hard that I was just like I was so
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over it like I didn't even like really care about
him anymore like that. Um like the the grief you
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had gone through all the stages. Yeah. Like it
was just like and like ending the relationship
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at that point was just a formality, right? Like it
wasn't a surprise to anyone it sounds like. Yeah,
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like even my friends were like like are you guys
still even together? Cuz like it was just like we
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don't even talk about each other or anything like
that. So it was just like a I like basically broke
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up with him. Like I literally sent the text
on the way to retreat and that weekend like
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we had no internet whatsoever. Oh. So like I had
absolutely like no idea if he was even going to
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reply or like when he was going to reply. So yeah.
So I was pretty much like honestly when I did
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that I felt like a really big weight come off my
shoulders and I was just like I can do whatever I
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want now like freely. So we had like I had friend
groups from my high school cuz we all like also
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went to confirmation together. Um Oh yeah. Me and
Jacob did not go to the same high school. Yes. I
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think that's also important to know. Yeah. Right.
High school sweethearts but not at the same high
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school. Yeah. So I went to a high school in San
Jose. Robin went to a high school in Mitus. Um,
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and I guess you can consider it like a medium
distance. Um, yeah. But that made things, I think,
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kind of different for us as a as a couple moving
forward. Yeah. So, we had like our own little
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friends, but then I kind of like found myself
like going towards like Jacob and then like his
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our other friend from confirmation. Um, like the
family friend. Um, just like that whole weekend,
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I think it was just like a a fresh breath of
air, I guess. I'm not saying like my friends
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weren't like anything like that. It was
just like I was kind of just exploring. Um,
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yeah. And it's kind of nice to just be around
a new energy. Yeah. You know? Yeah, exactly. I
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think that's exactly why. Um, but yeah, that just
I just like kept gravitating towards them. Um,
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and then so that was Friday and then Saturday
night um or I think it was Saturday afternoon
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we did confession and then for people who don't
know it's like it's like a Catholic thing. Um but
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you basically like just do your confessions and
then you kind of just do your own thing after.
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So I like walked. So we're lit literally in the
middle of the woods. Um and then I walked to like
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a fire pit area and then lo and behold I find
him um and our other friends there too. Because
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confession is a very like intimate thing. Yeah.
It can be very um emotionally impactful. Yeah. Um
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Yeah. I remember my my first confession I like how
old were you again when you get confessed? Dude,
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you're like maybe seven or eight. Yeah. Really
really young. But like my first confession ever,
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I like like burst into tears after and I had no
idea. Like my seven-year-old self was like, "What
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is happening to me?" Yeah. But it is it's a very
like it's a very vulnerable Yeah. thing to do. So,
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yeah, it was just like I was like, "Oh, okay."
Like, they're here, so might as well just hang
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out with them. Um, and then I had since we had no
phones, um, I had my like little Polaroid camera.
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Um, so we ended up taking pictures and stuff. I
still have that Polaroid. Um, we took a picture
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together and he like kind of like wrapped his arms
around me and I kind of got like a like a giddy
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feeling about it, but I was just like, "Okay, like
it's probably nothing." like it was probably just
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like new energy or whatever. Um, church spirits
are up all I did not know this. So there was like
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was there already like uh like an energy between
you guys though or was it Well, so I think um not
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necessarily in that aspect. Um I think we were
always kind of like just infatuated being around
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each other. Um yeah, when we became friends cuz
um our we ended up having a lot in common. Um,
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so it was really easy to talk to each other. Um,
and then I think more than anything at that time,
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um, at least going into into the retreat, we were
just like best friends. Yeah. And like for me,
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like I know it's so cheesy to say, but like for
him it was like just so easy. Like I felt so
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comfortable. Like I'm very much like shy when
it comes to other people, but with him it was
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just like I I don't feel shy whatsoever. Um,
so yeah, and then fast forward to that night,
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we were having dinner. Um, I actually call it
pizza night because we did have pizza, but that's
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just like how we like categorized the memory. Um,
we were at the tables and then I think you I went
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to your table. This is after adoration too, wasn't
it? Or was it before? No, not not adoration, but
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worship. I just say that to say like this whole
day all of us are on a very like a spiritual high.
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Like a lot of us are very like we're free of all
this weight from all like the the stuff that we're
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the baggage that we're carrying. Um we're around
people that we all love and that we've been around
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the entire year. Yeah. Um and this is just kind of
like a time for all of us to be together. Yeah. I
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get over to his table and then I think we were
just talking and then all of a sudden he gives
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me a hug like around my waist and I'm standing and
obviously like and he was sitting so it was just
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like kind of around my waist just naturally. Um
and then like again I get that giddy feeling so
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I'm like what is this feeling like? Yeah. I like
I honestly again cheesy but I've never felt that
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before. So I was like okay like this is kind of
weird. I don't know if it's because like it's
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like a new energy or what or if it's like or
if it's like the spiritual high feeling. Yeah,
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exactly. So, I was just like, "Oh my gosh, like
what is this feeling?" Um, but I kind of just
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like brush it off cuz I was probably like it was
just like I'm I don't want to think much of it.
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Like I don't want to ruin like what we have like
as best friends. Yeah. That's that's tough because
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like you know you guys were already established
as having a close relationship, right? Yeah. But
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the night ends and then I end up going back to my
cabin with my cabin leader and I'm actually really
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close to my cabin leader. She's like been like
a big sister to me since I don't even know like
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when I was in middle school. And funny thing is
he actually went to middle school with her. Yeah.
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So shout out at the Chandandy. So it like our
like it's like red string theory. Um like we're
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like connected in so many like different ways. So,
it was just like really crazy to me. But we were
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um there at our cabin and then everyone else was
asleep, but I was awake and she was awake. So,
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I get up on like her bunk and we're just
talking and because she knows Jacob um she
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does like ask me. She's like is like do you have
feelings for Jacob? And I'm like honestly like I
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don't even know. like I just find myself like
gravitating towards him and then she's like,
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"Yeah, cuz I can kind of like see how you are with
each other." I'm like I'm like, "Oh my god, like
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do I do I like him?" Like I don't know cuz like I
was just like also like, "Oh, I just got out of a
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relationship and like it just doesn't feel right."
But also, it's just like I can't stop how I feel,
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you know? Yeah. And sometimes it like like it
takes someone naming it for you or like you naming
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it to somebody else for it to be like oh gosh like
now it's real. Yeah. Yeah. Like it feels like this
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is not just something that's like swimming in my
head. Yeah. Exactly. It's like oh other people
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see it too. It's not just me. Like Yeah. So that
was like kind of like what made me realize like
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oh I think I actually have feelings for him. But
I was like kind of just again not trying to like
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read too much into it. Like what if he doesn't
feel the same way or it's just like I don't know
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like I'm I'm pretty much I'm a chronic overinker
so like I just didn't want to ruin anything. And
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then fast forward to March actually. Um rewind
to March. Rewind to March. Sorry. Yeah. Rewind
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to March. One of the conversations that um got
us closer into being like deeper friends. So,
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a little backstory. Um, I lost my sister. My mom
had a miscarriage. Um, and that was something that
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kind of brought that kind of made me mature a
little bit. Um, but it also brought the family
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closer together, all that stuff. It was a really
big event. Um, and I think uh I posted something
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about her on her birthday on her wouldbe birthday.
Um, and Robin swiped up. Mhm. And was asking me if
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I was okay and stuff like that. Long story short,
a conversation breaks out into like simp music.
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I'm like really sad like sy music. Wait, it just
like happened to start playing. No, no, no. Like
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we just had a conversation about it. Like we just,
oh, like what songs do you listen to? Blah blah
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blah blah. Okay. Um, and music is one of these
things that kind of just naturally brings people
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together regardless of if you listen to the same
music or not. Like we all have our own tastes and
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we're able to share them with each other. And it's
kind of like sharing a piece of you too, right?
0:17:49.520,0:17:55.280
Exactly. So that was like a something that drew
us closer together um on that front. Yeah. So that
0:17:55.280,0:18:04.240
was like um how we started talking like one-on-one
basically, right? Yeah. Um, oh that was the first
0:18:04.240,0:18:09.840
the first I guess like conversation like like like
real conversation it feels like. Yeah. So I like
0:18:09.840,0:18:16.480
to think that like Mia brought us together because
like he's so like or she's such a big part of him.
0:18:16.480,0:18:23.040
So I was just like like I like to think that
Mia is the reason why like we started our like
0:18:23.040,0:18:29.440
to strengthen like our friendship a little later.
like we kind of just our friends started seeing
0:18:29.440,0:18:37.200
how we were together. Um and then there's actually
a point where like my friends literally made a bet
0:18:37.200,0:18:42.880
um for me like they're like oh like if you catch
feelings then you owe me tasty. Um and then I
0:18:42.880,0:18:48.400
caught feelings so I had to buy them tasty and I
literally brought it to confirmation too. Right.
0:18:48.400,0:18:54.640
So um I guess we can talk a little bit about like
what solidified our feelings for each other at
0:18:54.640,0:18:58.640
least for me. Um, okay. I want to hear this from
your This is something that we've talked about.
0:18:58.640,0:19:03.920
Well, no, cuz like I So, one of the earliest
memories that I have of you, Robin, is Jake,
0:19:03.920,0:19:07.440
you were I think you were saying like, oh,
like I'm you were trying to tell yourself like,
0:19:07.440,0:19:12.080
I'm not going to catch feelings for Rob. I'm not
going to catch feelings for Rob. And then I like
0:19:12.080,0:19:15.760
wake up one day and I'll realize that I got No.
What I think like you and Bill said is like, why?
0:19:15.760,0:19:19.600
Like, why aren't you going to catch Yeah, like why
not? And I'm like I think at that point I'm like,
0:19:19.600,0:19:25.680
yeah, why not? You know? Um, so what brought us
together, um, is at retreat or at camp and stuff,
0:19:25.680,0:19:32.000
we have this thing called a camp crush, right?
It's supposed to be nothing like like kid fun,
0:19:32.000,0:19:37.200
right? Like, oh yeah, it's kind of just like a
teasing thing, right? Teasing thing, right? Um,
0:19:37.200,0:19:42.640
but you don't know who you don't know or people
don't know who you pick, blah blah blah blah.
0:19:42.640,0:19:51.040
All right. So, what? Oh, so we have to mention
the little baggies that we have. Oh, like the
0:19:51.040,0:19:56.320
the adoration notes or whatever. Um, yeah, there's
just like this thing where they have at camp where
0:19:56.320,0:20:01.760
you have like a little baggie with your name on
it and then you can write them little notes. Um,
0:20:01.760,0:20:07.280
so I wrote Jacob a note. I obviously didn't leave
my name, but I said, "You're my CC," which is Camp
0:20:07.280,0:20:12.480
Crush. And then I I always whenever I write like a
letter to someone, I always put a smiley face and
0:20:12.480,0:20:16.720
a heart. Like that's my like your signature. Yeah.
Like if you know me, you're you're going to know
0:20:16.720,0:20:22.960
it's like from me. But he didn't know more than
enough to know. Um, so I go this whole time like,
0:20:22.960,0:20:28.960
damn, who picked me? That's kind of cool. Um, but
I remember this vividly, too, cuz this is kind of
0:20:28.960,0:20:35.920
like a pivotal point in our relationship. The
power goes out at my house and we pack the car,
0:20:35.920,0:20:39.920
my family and I, we're end we're going to go
sleep at my grandparents house for the night. Um,
0:20:39.920,0:20:46.560
it's closer to work, closer to my school, all
that. Um, on the way there, Robin tells me
0:20:46.560,0:20:52.560
that I was her CC. And again, I mentioned
like it's not supposed to be a big thing,
0:20:52.560,0:20:56.960
but I'm doing back flips in the back. Oh my
god. I can just imagine. I'm like, what? And
0:20:56.960,0:21:01.040
you're with like the entire family. I'm with my
family. I I'm like I'm spazzing in the back seat,
0:21:01.040,0:21:07.680
but no one like I can't say anything. Um, cuz she
was mine, too. And again, it was supposed to be
0:21:07.680,0:21:11.200
like harmless. Obviously didn't know that, but
it was supposed to be harmless fun or whatever,
0:21:11.200,0:21:18.080
but got each other. We had We It's not got like
we just had a camp on you. Oh my god. I don't know
0:21:18.080,0:21:24.640
what I'm It's not secret Santa. No, you choose. Um
so I was her camp crush and she was mine. Um and
0:21:24.640,0:21:31.040
then when we admitted that to each other, I don't
know. It was it it just became a oh damn, like
0:21:31.040,0:21:37.120
that's kind of cool. So for like a week, I think
we just called each other CC. Yeah. And I remember
0:21:37.120,0:21:44.880
um it was like a like the day of like confirmation
like we had a class. He gets a haircut
0:21:44.880,0:21:51.760
um that day and I just remember like he sends me
a snap too like he like writes you're my CC on the
0:21:51.760,0:21:56.880
whiteboard at school and sends me a snap. I still
have the screenshot. Yeah, it was some head ass
0:21:56.880,0:22:03.760
like oh my gosh. I was like, "Okay, like I don't
know if this guy is like actually like playing
0:22:03.760,0:22:10.240
games with me or like like what is it? Like I'm
so confused." It's it's funny because like you
0:22:10.240,0:22:15.680
you see other like couple stories and this these
like meat cutes and all this stuff. I feel like
0:22:15.680,0:22:22.160
all of this just kind of just happened. It laid
out in front of us. Um I think exactly how it had
0:22:22.160,0:22:28.960
to. Yeah. Especially since like you guys didn't
even go to the same school. Mhm. Yeah, exactly.
0:22:28.960,0:22:35.040
Like which is so hard in high school where you're
like I don't know. It's like you don't really have
0:22:35.040,0:22:40.560
a lot of freedom. You're kind of bound by like
who can drive you. You don't have a license yet,
0:22:40.560,0:22:46.640
you know? Like thankfully you guys saw each other
regularly it sounds like. But like even then like
0:22:46.640,0:22:49.760
that's the only time that you guys ever saw
each other. Yeah, we saw each other for what
0:22:49.760,0:22:55.520
three hours on Fridays? Yeah. Was that it? Um like
barely even any like interaction though. It's like
0:22:55.520,0:23:03.440
literally before class or after class waiting for
rides. But I also like want to mention so he goes
0:23:03.440,0:23:09.680
on I think it was your spring break or something.
Oh, that was it was spring break. I went to uh I
0:23:09.680,0:23:13.920
went on that trip and then it was a retreat right
after that. Okay. Well, anyway, so before retreat,
0:23:13.920,0:23:17.600
he goes to Disneyland. I was going to say was
it Disneyland? It was probably was Yeah, of
0:23:17.600,0:23:25.040
course it's Disneyland. Um he goes to Disneyland
with his like four guy or three guy friends. Um,
0:23:25.040,0:23:29.840
and like he would just like constantly call
me, FaceTime me and stuff like that. Obviously,
0:23:29.840,0:23:34.960
my happy ass is just going to answer it, you know?
But like this girl is in class in high school and
0:23:34.960,0:23:41.760
and I'm FaceTiming her like Yeah. like bothering
me as much as I possibly can just to like be able
0:23:41.760,0:23:47.360
to talk, you know, and just like like, "Hey, how
you doing? Okay, bye." Like, and then I'll call
0:23:47.360,0:23:51.920
you. Hey, we're about to go on this ride. Yeah.
That's so cute. Like you were literally on the
0:23:51.920,0:23:56.880
happiest place on earth. Dead ass. No, but yeah,
this this trip is really formative because like
0:23:56.880,0:24:02.800
even my parents were like, "Dude, like you were on
a trip with your friends and you're calling your
0:24:02.800,0:24:09.520
friend like what's and I remember too vividly. I
was with them and we were we were hella tired at
0:24:09.520,0:24:17.760
one point. So, we're just resting um in this like
jungle gym area in California Adventure and um I
0:24:17.760,0:24:25.040
end up talking to to the guys about it. And I'm
like, "Hey, like like Robin's cool." And then my
0:24:25.040,0:24:32.080
friend these friends that know her. Mhm. Or Yeah.
One of them. One of them for sure. Um but then
0:24:32.080,0:24:35.600
one of my guys is like, "You're going to catch
feelings." I'm like, "What are you talking about,
0:24:35.600,0:24:41.840
bro? Like we're friends." And he's like, "All
right, whatever." So that kind of stays in my mind
0:24:41.840,0:24:47.280
while I go to retreat. And I'm like, "Oh, this
dude thinks I'm going to catch feelings." Okay.
0:24:48.080,0:24:55.280
ends up catching feeling that retreat. So this
is like midappril go on to like the end of April.
0:24:55.280,0:25:03.280
Um we have something called adoration which is a
again it's another one of these like very intimate
0:25:03.280,0:25:09.680
and vulnerable religious experiences from church
uh from from Catholicism where essentially we're
0:25:09.680,0:25:16.560
just praying for like an hour giving everything
that we have up to God. Um, and then at the end
0:25:16.560,0:25:22.000
we sing a bunch of worship songs and just make us
all cry, all of that stuff. Um, and at the time
0:25:22.000,0:25:27.040
Rob is going through something. Um, I'm always
going through something. I can't even remember
0:25:27.040,0:25:34.320
what it I'm crying obviously. Um, and she has like
a really strong support system at church at the
0:25:34.320,0:25:41.360
time. Like a lot of her uh friends from school
go to church go to go to confirmation. Um, she
0:25:41.360,0:25:47.360
had some like kua and ate figures there with her.
Yeah. Um but for some reason she came to me um and
0:25:47.360,0:25:53.200
I was just holding her during these songs and then
something compelled me to kiss her forehead and I
0:25:53.200,0:25:58.080
don't know if it's out of comfort. I don't know
if it's something else. Yeah. Yeah. Right. But I
0:25:58.080,0:26:04.160
kiss her forehead and that's another formative
moment because I didn't need to do it but I
0:26:04.160,0:26:11.040
felt compelled took it in a way that was like oh
that's something that I needed or Okay. Wait pause
0:26:11.040,0:26:17.360
though. So when that happened, like literally the
night that it happened, I'm obviously like like
0:26:17.360,0:26:21.680
frantic. I'm like, "Wait, what does this mean?"
Like I'm obviously like I already have feelings
0:26:21.680,0:26:28.800
like or like I'm feeling something for him and
it's like like does that mean something? Um so
0:26:28.800,0:26:34.000
I ask him and I'm like, "Hey, like what was
that like forehead kiss?" Like I just needed
0:26:34.000,0:26:39.200
the answer. Like I wasn't like right trying to
You needed something to put your thinking at
0:26:39.200,0:26:47.200
ease. Yeah. Exactly. So, I ask him and this guy
literally says, "Oh, it was just for comfort."
0:26:47.200,0:26:54.240
You did not, Jake. I did. He did. I'm sorry. It's
hard. It's hard because we're talking about like
0:26:54.240,0:26:59.120
a 14-year-old, right? You know, so it's like,
of course, that sounds that checks out for a
0:26:59.120,0:27:05.280
14-year-old, but also, my god, Jake. Yeah, that
was your chance. I'm sorry. Do you remember that
0:27:05.280,0:27:12.720
conversation? Um, I do. And I think I said it
because well, for one, I I didn't I I think
0:27:12.720,0:27:20.400
I blacked out. Wait, that is a crazy statement.
No, that's actually so fair because like it was
0:27:20.400,0:27:26.800
probably it probably made you nervous. I was I
was nervous. Um but again, like I think a part
0:27:26.800,0:27:32.800
of it was for comfort, right? Because you were in
a place that I didn't know where you were. Um and
0:27:32.800,0:27:36.320
you obviously weren't seeking comfort from other
people that were there. Yeah. Yeah. I was like,
0:27:36.320,0:27:42.000
"Okay, like I want to do what I can to comfort
you, right?" But at the same time, I think I
0:27:42.000,0:27:47.920
wouldn't have done that if I didn't feel something
about it, right? Um, so, so I mean, he didn't lie.
0:27:47.920,0:27:54.160
I didn't lie, but it was a halftruth. It was Yeah,
he was admitting a lot. Okay. Well, obviously I
0:27:54.160,0:28:01.680
was delusional and I took it as it Okay. It was
nothing as you I Why would Why would you as as as
0:28:01.680,0:28:07.120
a normal person would? Yeah. So, I was just like
I was obviously tripping, but I was just like,
0:28:07.120,0:28:12.880
"Okay, like let me just like not think much about
it." But, um, but yeah, as I was saying earlier,
0:28:12.880,0:28:18.880
like our friends like all started to see like
how just like our friendship was panning out,
0:28:18.880,0:28:26.240
how close we got. Um, and then I think honestly,
I don't even know like what got us to like to that
0:28:26.240,0:28:32.640
point to a point where it was like, oh, like
I like you. You like I like you. I do. I don't
0:28:32.640,0:28:38.320
remember it. Okay. So, what it was, um, I think
you actually like we admitted that we had feelings
0:28:38.320,0:28:47.520
for each other. Um, and wait, who said it first?
I think I did. Yeah, I think truthfully. Yeah,
0:28:47.520,0:28:52.240
I think it was you. I feel like I can see that.
I think I I I feel like Robin, you wouldn't have
0:28:52.240,0:28:58.560
said anything until you knew. Yeah. Um, so I I
I think I admitted that I had feelings first.
0:28:58.560,0:29:05.120
Um, but at the time I was also coming out of a
relationship and mine was fresher than Robins was.
0:29:05.120,0:29:12.240
So I was still trying to navigate a few things.
And one of the things that like really solidified
0:29:12.240,0:29:20.400
that I was down for Robin was she said she would
be willing to wait for me to process everything
0:29:20.400,0:29:30.720
that I was going through to understand what I
wanted. Um, and if that meant her kind of settling
0:29:30.720,0:29:35.680
down and waiting for that process to happen,
then she would be willing to do it. And I had
0:29:35.680,0:29:42.720
never met anyone, friend, significant other or the
like, that would be willing to do that for me. And
0:29:42.720,0:29:48.880
that that definitely struck a nerve because I was
like, "Oh, that there's definitely something here.
0:29:48.880,0:29:55.760
uh these feelings are reciprocated and I I would
be stupid not to to follow what I wanted. Yeah. Or
0:29:55.760,0:29:59.600
to say anything, right? Right. Because it sounds
like you guys have been kind of dancing around,
0:29:59.600,0:30:11.120
right, this for a while. Mhm. Um so eventually, um
I grow the courage to ask her to be my girlfriend.
0:30:11.120,0:30:20.880
Um Okay. But like he's so funny because I'm 14.
He literally like was not even hiding it. Like he
0:30:20.880,0:30:25.920
literally would like tell me like he probably told
me like Monday or like middle of the week he'd be
0:30:25.920,0:30:30.640
like you're not going to be single by the end of
this week and I literally only see him Friday.
0:30:30.640,0:30:35.680
Like what like what else are you supposed to say,
right? Oh my god. Like or maybe just shut up,
0:30:35.680,0:30:44.000
right? Um but yeah, he's so funny. I remember the
day of um Oh, me too. I was I got cute. I curled
0:30:44.000,0:30:48.080
my hair. Yeah, she got cute. Oh my god, that's
so funny. This is like you guys have been like
0:30:48.080,0:30:53.840
preparing for this, right? No, like the whole day.
Like you can ask my friends. I was geek smiling
0:30:53.840,0:31:00.560
ear to ear the whole the whole nine. Um, but I
get a confirmation. No, I get a haircut that day
0:31:00.560,0:31:06.320
first. Oh, of course you did. Of course I did. I
get a haircut cuz the haircut place that I used to
0:31:06.320,0:31:11.520
go to was right across the street from church,
right? I would get my haircut and then I would
0:31:11.520,0:31:16.080
chill at my grandpa's house for like a couple
hours and then I would go to church and our
0:31:16.080,0:31:23.600
confirmation doesn't start until what like maybe
5 5:45 yeah I get there at like 5 cuz Rob's going
0:31:23.600,0:31:30.080
to get there at 5. She ends up talking to her like
her aunt at first. Yeah. And I was expecting like
0:31:30.080,0:31:33.760
the minute I see her, we're going to I'm going to
grab her. We're going to go off and I'm going to
0:31:33.760,0:31:40.640
ask her to be my girlfriend. No. Beat me to it.
you were so nervous. So, I'm just sitting there
0:31:40.640,0:31:47.600
like rubbing my hand, not talking to anyone, hella
scared. Um, she eventually comes back and she's
0:31:47.600,0:31:54.640
crying and I'm like, "What did they possibly talk
about now? Can I ask this question?" And then she
0:31:54.640,0:32:00.880
sees me, she starts smiling. So, I'm like, "Okay,
we might be good." Yeah. Um, now I was like, "Hey,
0:32:00.880,0:32:06.160
can I talk to you really quick?" So, then we
It's like, "Oh, whatever for Yeah. Right. So,
0:32:06.160,0:32:12.400
we leave. We go um to like to the stairs of
like a like a secluded area away from where
0:32:12.400,0:32:18.560
confirmation's happening and I ask her to be my
girlfriend. Um okay. But he like asked me like the
0:32:18.560,0:32:26.320
cheesiest like questions like I didn't know what
to say. I'm like I had all this time to prepare
0:32:26.320,0:32:33.040
and then literally and I'm literally dropping
the ball. Yeah. I'm like, "No, I literally say
0:32:33.040,0:32:38.320
something like like it's literally like is the
sky blue?" Yeah. Like it's yes or no question.
0:32:38.320,0:32:43.360
So obviously every question he asked me was yes.
Was a yes. And then he slips in, "Will you be my
0:32:43.360,0:32:50.000
girlfriend?" Oh my god. It's like one of those
like say like fork five times, right? Or like
0:32:50.000,0:32:56.080
like will you be my girlfriend? Yes. Definitely.
Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. One of Oh my god. Like like
0:32:56.080,0:33:01.840
the worst possible thing you could like say at the
time. It was pretty cringe. But we were so geeked
0:33:01.840,0:33:06.320
over each other. It was just like Oh my god.
Immediately. Yeah. Like it didn't matter. It was
0:33:06.320,0:33:11.520
an immediate yes. And at that point, like we're
we're both over the moon. I'm probably like my
0:33:11.520,0:33:17.360
cheeks probably still hurt from that day, smiling
the whole time. Then after confirmation, we go to
0:33:17.360,0:33:24.320
worship. So like during confirmation, there's like
a separate thing happening at church called YFC
0:33:24.320,0:33:29.120
where people who aren't in confirmation, they
go there and they have a bunch of Bible study.
0:33:29.120,0:33:34.880
They talk about all this stuff and that at the end
they have a big worship thing where confirmation
0:33:34.880,0:33:42.480
kids can go and just like listen to worship music
and sing and all that. Um, at the end of it,
0:33:42.480,0:33:48.240
we go down and I'm about to get picked up from
my parents and I say bye to everyone and then
0:33:48.240,0:33:55.600
I finish off and I say bye to Rob. I plan to kiss
her on the cheek. She turns her head and we have
0:33:55.600,0:34:01.600
like the most awkward first kiss ever. We're like
It's like half of my lip and half of her lip. Oh
0:34:01.600,0:34:07.760
god. And it Yeah. It was It wasn't great. But then
we double back for like a real kiss. Yeah. Cuz now
0:34:07.760,0:34:11.120
it's like all right, we got to [ __ ] commit.
Yeah. Right. We can't leave it like this. Yeah.
0:34:11.120,0:34:18.560
Literally. And it was like it was a great first
kiss. Um it's like magic. Oh my god. Of course.
0:34:18.560,0:34:23.920
Like it had to be bad first. Of course. Yeah. But
yeah, that was that was how we became official.
0:34:23.920,0:34:31.920
And what what day was that? May 4th. May 4th,
2018. Wow. Wow. And it's funny cuz he's a big
0:34:31.920,0:34:35.760
Star Wars fan. I know. I was going to say I'm like
that's a that's a big day. I promise it wasn't
0:34:35.760,0:34:41.440
planned. It just happened. That seems a little too
intentional. It just happened. You know what? You
0:34:41.440,0:34:45.520
know what day? You know what day would be a great
anniversary. Very excited. So yeah, that's that's
0:34:45.520,0:34:51.920
that's the story. The rest is history. The rest is
history. Yeah. Wow. What's it like talking about
0:34:51.920,0:34:56.800
it now and thinking about it now? It's been a long
time since then, right? I think we're both very
0:34:56.800,0:35:02.000
proud of it. Again, like it's not your typical
thing, but it's also not like I'm very grateful
0:35:02.000,0:35:07.040
that we met where we did and how we did. Yeah, for
sure. Because there are I say this all the time,
0:35:07.040,0:35:12.480
but there are definitely worse places to meet
people. For sure. For sure. than confirmation
0:35:12.480,0:35:20.720
class, you know. Um but yeah, I'm proud of our
story. I'm happy with where we came from and where
0:35:20.720,0:35:27.600
we've come. So, yeah. Yeah. I think Yeah. I think
it's just so crazy like looking back at it now
0:35:27.600,0:35:35.040
and obviously it's like we're 22 now. Like we're
literally grown adults and we were 14 when we met.
0:35:35.040,0:35:42.080
So, it's just like a big like wow. Like it's like
wow. We were that young and we're geeking over
0:35:42.080,0:35:47.600
each other. But it's like I wouldn't like change
it for the world, you know? So, it's like it's
0:35:47.600,0:35:54.480
it's fun to like refresh your memory. Obviously, I
timelines got mixed up a bit, but it's there. No,
0:35:54.480,0:36:00.000
but what I like about it, too, is it feels so
serendipitous. Like, it doesn't feel like um
0:36:00.000,0:36:05.920
we had to do these things to put these things in
place. Like, it felt like everything got laid out
0:36:05.920,0:36:12.160
in front of us and we all we really had to do was
just follow the path that brought us together. So,
0:36:12.160,0:36:20.720
so yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It feels very like natural.
Yeah, that's like the best word for sure. So,
0:36:20.720,0:36:28.400
like you know, church was like obviously such
a big, you know, um like influence in your
0:36:28.400,0:36:34.880
guys's the beginning of your relationship, right?
Yeah. Like how does church and faith, you know,
0:36:34.880,0:36:41.440
does that still present in your relationship
now? I Yeah, I would say so. Like um for me
0:36:41.440,0:36:49.040
actually like obviously like my parents are very
like um conservative so they would like someone
0:36:49.040,0:36:55.680
who is religious. So and I do like agree with the
same beliefs and stuff. So meeting him was just
0:36:55.680,0:37:02.320
like an extra plus for me. Like it was just like
excuse me very like reassuring that like I think
0:37:02.320,0:37:09.120
he might be the one like I still like we still go
to church together. Um, we pray when we need to,
0:37:09.120,0:37:19.200
when we can. So, I think it's still a very big
like role in our relationship. Yeah, I agree. Um,
0:37:19.200,0:37:26.560
and I also think like I I I get not everyone
is super religious and stuff, but um when I
0:37:26.560,0:37:32.880
met Robin, I was kind of coming into my own with
my own faith. Um, and I attribute a lot of the
0:37:32.880,0:37:41.200
growth that I've made with my own version of God
to her. Um, because yeah, you don't feel judged
0:37:41.200,0:37:45.760
um about your beliefs. And I think that's also
very important in every aspect of a relationship,
0:37:45.760,0:37:52.880
not just religion or spirituality. Um, but it's
also important for us too to have kind of have God
0:37:52.880,0:37:58.640
at the center of our relationship. Um because it
keeps us grounded and it keeps us humble knowing
0:37:58.640,0:38:06.240
that um one we're in it for each other too, but we
also have God to kind of keep us on the straight
0:38:06.240,0:38:14.160
and narrow and all that. Mhm. Yeah. I love that. I
love that. It sounds like a very big part of both
0:38:14.160,0:38:20.880
of your identities that like I don't know. I can
just it's not the same thing obviously but like I
0:38:20.880,0:38:27.040
always think about like if I didn't marry another
Filipino like if I married someone else like a you
0:38:27.040,0:38:33.520
know like someone of a different culture I don't
know you don't have to explain it's just like some
0:38:33.520,0:38:39.360
that you just know right right um and especially
religion now where religion is like it's hard
0:38:39.360,0:38:47.120
people have you know very differing opinions and
you know thoughts about religion but to have you
0:38:47.120,0:38:53.920
know the kind of mutual understanding and um have
it be so important in each other's lives. Like
0:38:53.920,0:39:00.720
that feels I can't imagine what it would be like
to not have that, right? Yeah. And I think I think
0:39:00.720,0:39:07.120
it's important for both of us too cuz I mean right
now it's it's pretty hard to be a a Catholic,
0:39:07.120,0:39:15.360
a Christian right now. Yeah. With how seemingly
black and white everything is. Um, but our beliefs
0:39:15.360,0:39:23.440
don't align 100% with everything else. Um, and I
think being able to have that fluidity, but also
0:39:23.440,0:39:29.920
be able to have an understanding, like a common
understanding of both of our faith is important,
0:39:29.920,0:39:35.840
too. So, the fact that we're able to have views
that align so seamlessly is also important to
0:39:35.840,0:39:45.760
both of us, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure.
And so I know that when you like start dating
0:39:45.760,0:39:50.880
at such a young age, right, it's like I mean you
guys are still young now, but you're adults now,
0:39:50.880,0:39:57.760
right? Like you essentially like grew up together,
you know? Like I mean, yeah, it was high school,
0:39:57.760,0:40:02.160
but I you know, just these formative I know what
that's like, right? Like I know what that's like
0:40:02.160,0:40:07.920
to be in a relationship with someone through these
like really foundational years of your life. like
0:40:07.920,0:40:17.040
what's that been like for you guys? Um, honestly
like it's kind of like I tell Jacob this all the
0:40:17.040,0:40:22.240
time. It's like sometimes I don't even notice
that we're growing up. Obviously like a lot of
0:40:22.240,0:40:28.080
big changes like oh like before like we would only
see each other once a week because like we didn't
0:40:28.080,0:40:36.240
drive but then now it's like we literally see each
other almost every day. So, it's like it's like I
0:40:36.240,0:40:42.000
don't always see like the big changes unless it's
actually like happening like right in front of
0:40:42.000,0:40:50.400
me. Um, but I don't know. I feel like like things
are the same and then some things are different.
0:40:50.400,0:40:56.480
On that note, too, I feel like it's cool to
have not cool, but like it is cool to have a
0:40:56.480,0:41:02.320
partner for as long as as we've been with each
other because um you're able to have different
0:41:02.320,0:41:08.960
perspectives on your own life events, right?
Like like I remember when she turned 18. Um Oh,
0:41:08.960,0:41:15.840
yeah. She remembers when I got my license. Like
these are all formative things and you have your
0:41:15.840,0:41:19.920
family and pictures and stuff to fall back on, but
we also have each other to kind of be like, "Oh,
0:41:19.920,0:41:28.800
do you remember this?" Like, and I mean, we have
friends that we've had for a long time, but it's
0:41:28.800,0:41:35.040
a little bit of a deeper connection and you're
able to like really get into to specifics. And
0:41:35.040,0:41:41.440
um I don't know, like it's just cool. I just feel
like I have a best friend. Yeah. Time. Yeah. Yeah.
0:41:41.440,0:41:46.320
Yeah. Your guys' memories are like immortalized in
each other, right? Which is really cool. Yeah. I
0:41:46.320,0:41:51.600
think that like what I'm coming to know at least
is that like relationships, you know, like ones
0:41:51.600,0:41:59.040
that you plan to spend, you know, the rest of your
lives in, it's like you're constantly going to be,
0:41:59.040,0:42:03.840
you know, like reintroducing different versions
of yourselves to each other, right? And so like
0:42:03.840,0:42:09.520
the the version of yourselves that you guys
were at 14 versus like 18 versus now, you know,
0:42:09.520,0:42:14.800
like you know, you're not different people. You're
you know, there's a lot of you're the same person,
0:42:14.800,0:42:20.720
but you know, it's like you're just that much
different or that much older and wiser and
0:42:20.720,0:42:27.440
um have that many more experiences to speak to
together, which is really cool. Um okay, so let's
0:42:27.440,0:42:33.360
let's talk about if you guys are okay with it.
I'm curious like what about like challenges in
0:42:33.360,0:42:40.160
your relationship? Like how do you has there been
a time in these last seven years that has been
0:42:40.160,0:42:47.120
really challenging? Um, and how did you navigate
that? And also just like in general, I guess,
0:42:47.120,0:42:53.200
like how do you guys like handle challenges
together? Um, I mean, there's definitely been
0:42:53.200,0:42:59.200
kind of peaks and valleys. Um, I think that comes
with every relationship. But I think in those
0:42:59.200,0:43:05.200
times what's important is like you you understand
you have to like take a step back, look at all of
0:43:05.200,0:43:12.000
the work that you've put in to this relationship,
the amount of time um and effort um that you've
0:43:12.000,0:43:21.520
fed into this relationship. Um, understand your
partner. Know that like they're bigger than the
0:43:21.520,0:43:27.280
scope of the mistakes that they make. and um
understanding yourself like you're going to make
0:43:27.280,0:43:36.720
mistakes too. Um so learning how to navigate that
together is is is important. Um something that we
0:43:36.720,0:43:41.360
value a lot is communication and I think over
these seven years we've gotten a lot better at
0:43:41.360,0:43:49.440
being able to communicate even non-verbbally. Um
that just comes with time too but that's something
0:43:49.440,0:43:56.000
that allows us to just not be in the dark all the
time. Um cuz that was something that at least for
0:43:56.000,0:44:01.520
me was really hard in the beginning of my our
relationship. Um what do you mean? Like it was
0:44:01.520,0:44:08.560
just hard to talk about how you were feeling or
Well, that for sure. Um but I was also just very
0:44:08.560,0:44:16.080
insecure when we started dating. Um, maybe some of
it had to do with like the distance that we had,
0:44:16.080,0:44:21.040
like we didn't go to the same high school or
anything like that, but um I was just constantly
0:44:21.040,0:44:31.120
insecure about um how she felt about me, if those
feelings were validated. Um if I was doing enough
0:44:31.120,0:44:39.440
as a partner. Um and yeah, a lot that was a lot
of like maybe the first like six months of our
0:44:39.440,0:44:46.320
relationship. M well for one like we aren't long
distance obviously uh we like I like to say like
0:44:46.320,0:44:53.440
medium distance um because again we didn't go to
the same high school so it was just kind of hard
0:44:53.440,0:45:02.480
cuz I'm very much like a quality time person so
like it was really hard to like not be with him
0:45:02.480,0:45:08.160
a lot of cuz I would like literally only see him
like once a week. Um, so that was kind of tough on
0:45:08.160,0:45:13.920
us um for a little bit. Um, but eventually like
we kind of learned like oh like since we only
0:45:13.920,0:45:20.160
get to see each other like once once a week then
it's like we should like we get excited like the
0:45:20.160,0:45:26.240
excitement builds up and then we try to make the
most out of it when we do see each other. Um, so I
0:45:26.240,0:45:34.080
think that was just like something that we had to
like like learn. Um, and then yeah, like he said
0:45:34.080,0:45:40.720
earlier, like he was very insecure and I would get
like the bad end of it because sometimes he would
0:45:40.720,0:45:46.480
just like ignore me for no reason. Um, and I would
be kind of clueless. Like I would be like, "Oh,
0:45:46.480,0:45:51.200
like what did I do wrong?" Cuz I like to ask and
be like, "Oh, is there something wrong? Is there
0:45:51.200,0:45:58.000
something I can do to like fix that?" Um, but it
was just like kind of like again like it was kind
0:45:58.000,0:46:03.360
of like a communication like barrier too because
it sometimes it would kind of be no reason like
0:46:03.360,0:46:08.480
he would just be overthinking and it's just like
well I can't really help you if you don't tell me
0:46:08.480,0:46:13.760
like what it's about like if there's a root to it
if there's something I may have slightly said that
0:46:13.760,0:46:19.760
made you like think the wrong way and I didn't
mean it intentionally. Um, so it's kind of a lot
0:46:19.760,0:46:26.000
of that too. And I also like I to this day like
still kind of struggle where it's like I I know
0:46:26.000,0:46:30.960
there's something wrong, but then I don't know how
to approach it just because like I don't want to
0:46:30.960,0:46:37.840
like put that weight on him cuz it's not his job
obviously. I know he's my boyfriend, but it's just
0:46:37.840,0:46:41.440
like sometimes I carry a lot of weight and I don't
want to put that on him. Wait, you don't want to
0:46:41.440,0:46:46.960
put what on him? Like if I'm like feeling down.
Oh, I see. Or anything like that. like I don't
0:46:46.960,0:46:53.680
want to put that on him and like just carry all of
that for me. Um, so I do struggle with that still
0:46:53.680,0:46:59.120
sometimes, but I think we know each other well
enough to know our love languages. So sometimes
0:46:59.120,0:47:05.200
like if I feel down like he knows just like to be
with me, like he doesn't have to say anything and
0:47:05.200,0:47:12.640
like that's just really all that I need. Mhm. Um
but yeah, I think that's pretty much Yeah, I think
0:47:12.640,0:47:18.880
um something that kind of broke me out of that and
maybe we would have a lot of conversations about
0:47:18.880,0:47:26.240
this cuz this was kind of a recurring thing. Um
is really just like fully committing to trusting
0:47:26.240,0:47:36.960
everything that she had to say. um like fully
committing to trusting her, that she was in it
0:47:36.960,0:47:41.840
100% for the relationship, all of this stuff.
That kind of gave me the the sense of clarity
0:47:41.840,0:47:49.120
that I needed to not have to internalize all of
these things to not feel so slighted so easily.
0:47:49.120,0:47:58.080
um because that's unfair to her too, you know,
like I can feel all these things, but if I'm also
0:47:58.080,0:48:08.160
making it visible um intangible for her to feel,
that's not okay, too. Um so, kind of completely
0:48:08.160,0:48:16.000
getting rid of that mind frame allowed me to be
more open and more communicative as a result. So,
0:48:16.000,0:48:25.120
yeah. Yeah, I think the the hard thing about trust
is that you just have to do it to like build it,
0:48:25.120,0:48:30.240
you know, and there's risk in that obviously,
right? Cuz like what's keeping us from trusting
0:48:30.240,0:48:36.160
sometimes is protection. Like we want to protect
ourselves, right? Um, and then taking that leap
0:48:36.160,0:48:39.680
to just be like, "Okay, I'm just going to I'm just
going to trust this person with everything that I
0:48:39.680,0:48:47.040
have is really really hard and really vulnerable."
But that's like that's what needs to happen,
0:48:47.040,0:48:51.600
right? For you to almost assure yourself that
like, okay, like this was a good choice. Like
0:48:51.600,0:48:58.080
I was able I can take the sleep. I can trust
and it's going to be okay. Yeah. Thank you
0:48:58.080,0:49:04.560
for sharing. I know this is hard to talk about
sometimes. So, but I mean on a lighter note,
0:49:04.560,0:49:11.280
I'm curious like what is next for you guys?
Because right now, um just to kind of set a little
0:49:11.280,0:49:17.600
bit of context, Rob and Jake, you still live with
your respective families. Um you're both still in
0:49:17.600,0:49:25.680
school. When are you graduating? I graduate
this December. I graduate next December. Oh,
0:49:25.680,0:49:30.480
okay. I thought you guys Oh my god, that's so
soon. That's really You're like Leslie then. Yeah.
0:49:30.480,0:49:38.240
Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, yes, they're going to be
graduating soon in like the next Yeah. year or so,
0:49:38.240,0:49:44.320
year and a half. So, what's next? Academically,
both of us kind of still have to go to school
0:49:44.320,0:49:50.800
um for our respective career paths that we want
for ourselves, but relationship wise, like I mean,
0:49:50.800,0:49:57.680
the goal is to get married. Um the goal is to
continue to foster what we've been growing. Um,
0:49:57.680,0:50:04.800
did you always know that the end goal was
getting married? Funny story actually. So,
0:50:04.800,0:50:10.480
my first birthday ever spent with him, it was
my 15th birthday. Again, I still also have the
0:50:10.480,0:50:17.520
box. So, he had this like brown box. Um, since
we were so connected um through music um our
0:50:17.520,0:50:22.560
like one of our theme songs is So into You by
Tamia. So, I think you had that written at like
0:50:22.560,0:50:28.800
the top and then it was just like this outfit
that I wanted on my my birthday wish list. Um,
0:50:28.800,0:50:34.960
and then he actually gave me his dog tag. I did
karate when I was a kid. And one of Say do that
0:50:34.960,0:50:40.480
proudly, of course. And one of the things that uh
that like our instructors made for us was like our
0:50:40.480,0:50:45.680
own personal dog tags commemorating the tests that
we had for our black belts, all that stuff. So,
0:50:45.680,0:50:53.200
I ended up giving Robin one of them. Yeah. Um,
and then I got like a Lokai bracelet if any of you
0:50:53.200,0:50:58.960
guys remember that. I don't even know if that's
ancient. Like it sounds pretty ancient. Yeah. Um,
0:50:58.960,0:51:07.200
and then in a smaller brown box, I opened
it and it literally said like word for word,
0:51:07.200,0:51:12.160
I probably have a picture of it on my phone. It
said since I can't give you my last dot dot dot or
0:51:12.160,0:51:18.960
like something yet. And it was a promise ring. And
mind you, we were like that. So that was like May,
0:51:18.960,0:51:24.240
June, July. That was two months into that was two
months into our relationship because one of the
0:51:24.240,0:51:29.120
one of the lessons that we learned in confirmation
every circles back to [ __ ] church. Um one of
0:51:29.120,0:51:37.440
the one of the things that like keeps one of the
lessons that like stuck with me was um if you're
0:51:37.440,0:51:43.280
not dating to marry, you're dating to fail. Yeah.
Um, and that was like really poignant like coming
0:51:43.280,0:51:51.280
coming from or like hearing that um as like a high
schooler um when you go into high school like a
0:51:51.280,0:51:55.760
lot of your like dating experience like oh I'm
going to just like date to date like we're just
0:51:55.760,0:52:01.680
going to like what's it called? Have fun. Have
fun. Yeah. Um, but I was young when I heard that
0:52:01.680,0:52:07.440
and I was like, that's that's really that's really
true because I mean if you're not if you're not
0:52:07.440,0:52:12.480
aiming to put 100% of yourself into something
into anything, you shouldn't probably do it,
0:52:12.480,0:52:16.800
right? Yeah. I mean, it sounds like you weren't
like going into the relationship being like we
0:52:16.800,0:52:20.640
are going to get married or maybe you were. I
don't know. I mean, it doesn't sound like it was
0:52:20.640,0:52:27.040
a conscious thought. It was more just like like
I don't see this going anywhere else. You have no
0:52:27.040,0:52:33.200
other plans for it. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz like there are
definitely like transactional relationships for
0:52:33.200,0:52:40.480
sure, but this didn't feel like one and it's still
doesn't. So I think Yeah. I I mean like before him
0:52:40.480,0:52:49.920
I was in like two like um long-term relationships
and um I honestly like truthfully did not really
0:52:49.920,0:52:57.600
see myself like having a like future with them.
like it was just I would like I had the mindset
0:52:57.600,0:53:04.000
of dating to marry too, but I just like did not
see that until I got with him. I think it's that
0:53:04.000,0:53:11.360
also had to do with because we had like the same
like values. Um, and also like my parents just
0:53:11.360,0:53:18.720
naturally loved him. So, it was just like a kind
of like I kind of knew that I like I want to marry
0:53:18.720,0:53:25.760
him. So, it was like I don't know. I'm assuming
something that was talked about pretty early on.
0:53:25.760,0:53:32.160
Honestly, no. Like specifically marriage, not
necessarily. Um it was more like we like we're
0:53:32.160,0:53:36.400
going to like be in each other's lives in the
long run because we were obviously so young,
0:53:36.400,0:53:42.320
right? Um I didn't think these I don't think these
like marriage talks started happening until like
0:53:42.320,0:53:48.320
maybe a year, maybe a year and a half ago. Really?
Mhm. Oh wow. We would talk about like hypothetical
0:53:48.320,0:53:55.760
kids and stuff like these houses and [ __ ] but
like but never like like actual marriage. Um,
0:53:55.760,0:54:00.160
but there was there was a time we went to like
a park and we're having like a picnic. We ended
0:54:00.160,0:54:06.160
up building like Legos and [ __ ] It was a cute
date. Um, but we ended up just laying down and
0:54:06.160,0:54:12.080
then talking about like our future and stuff. Um,
and our plans and where we want to take things and
0:54:12.080,0:54:18.400
and marriage came up and and yeah. So yeah, I mean
I guess that makes sense because like I think you
0:54:18.400,0:54:23.120
know marriage conversations around marriage when
you're so young is it's just different right than
0:54:23.120,0:54:27.840
conversations when you're a little bit older.
It feels more like yeah this is like happening
0:54:27.840,0:54:32.160
you know this is what we're working towards right
now. And I think it's so crazy like we're at the
0:54:32.160,0:54:36.080
age now when like our friends are getting married
and having kids and stuff and it's you literally
0:54:36.080,0:54:40.720
got married like that's so crazy to me. It's weird
like it's it's it's not weird like it's bound to
0:54:40.720,0:54:46.880
happen but it it just feels like I still feel so
young. Yeah. Yeah. But these things are on the
0:54:46.880,0:54:57.200
horizon. So, great. Um, so I graduate in the in
the fall of 26. Um, and I've already told her that
0:54:57.200,0:55:05.200
after I graduate, I will pop the question. I don't
have a date. I don't have specifics yet, but um,
0:55:05.200,0:55:09.680
once I'm able to walk that stage, we'll we'll have
these conversations a little bit more. I mean,
0:55:09.680,0:55:15.040
it was it's a great thing cuz I could actually
prepare myself. I know. I'm like, "Okay,
0:55:15.040,0:55:19.040
so that's how you know you need to get your nails
done." These lashes and nails done. We literally
0:55:19.040,0:55:24.240
talk about like non-negotiables when it comes
to like proposal and stuff. But yeah, it's just
0:55:24.240,0:55:31.760
so crazy. Like we like just started talking about
it and it's like like my parents are like, "Well,
0:55:31.760,0:55:34.640
after you graduate, do whatever you want. Like if
you want to get married, get married." I'm like,
0:55:34.640,0:55:39.920
"Okay." They literally talk about like having
grandkids already and I'm like well you're
0:55:39.920,0:55:46.480
jumping a little way too far ahead. Yeah. Like
not yet. Let's let's get let's getting at least
0:55:46.480,0:55:51.200
engaged. We have a we have a couple things we
need to get done first. Yeah. I already told
0:55:51.200,0:55:58.400
him that too. So like on the topic of like what's
like like in the near future. Um like I want to
0:55:58.400,0:56:04.960
become like an occupational therapist. So like I
still have that road to go down and he does too.
0:56:04.960,0:56:12.880
Um, but like I tell him all the time it's like we
don't even need to get married like right away.
0:56:12.880,0:56:19.680
Like I just want to be engaged. Like let people
know like this is for life. Like so I told him I
0:56:19.680,0:56:24.560
was like if you want to like get engaged and then
like wait till like we both finish like PT and OT
0:56:24.560,0:56:31.520
school then like so be it. Like I just I want to
be a fiance. Yeah. I just want to lock it down.
0:56:32.080,0:56:36.640
I'm excited for you guys because it's not like,
you know, like you guys are going to get married.
0:56:36.640,0:56:40.480
It's going to happen, right? But like you guys
have been together for so long now at this point
0:56:40.480,0:56:43.520
that it's just like, you know, everyone is just
like it's a matter of time. I was going to say
0:56:43.520,0:56:48.960
like there's a lot of I feel like there's a lot of
anticipation on both sides for it to just be like,
0:56:48.960,0:56:54.720
can it happen already? And our friends like always
like asking when are you guys going to get married
0:56:54.720,0:57:00.640
and all that. So it's like it's so funny to me.
What? So, if you were to give advice to your
0:57:00.640,0:57:06.720
younger selves, you know, seven years ago before
um or I don't know, at any point, you know, in
0:57:06.720,0:57:10.800
this relationship, like what would you guys tell
yourselves? Okay, I'll just go first and then we
0:57:10.800,0:57:16.480
can just build off. Okay. Um for me, I would just
say so like in the beginning of our relationship,
0:57:16.480,0:57:21.920
we kind of got like a lot of like backlash
cuz we were both kind of like fresh out of a
0:57:21.920,0:57:31.680
relationship. So, we kind of had a lot of haters.
Um really um more so like from from my side. My
0:57:31.680,0:57:40.640
previous relationship, she went to the same high
school that I did. So a lot of the the quote
0:57:40.640,0:57:48.000
unquote backlash that we got from our relationship
was a lot of like her side defending her and
0:57:48.000,0:57:55.600
unjustly attacking her for it. It's some petty
high school stuff. um you grow, you get over it,
0:57:55.600,0:58:01.280
all that stuff. But for a lot of the beginning,
we were going through some of that. Yeah. So, like
0:58:01.280,0:58:08.800
that kind of just like made me question like not
if like obviously I knew he was worth it, but it
0:58:08.800,0:58:15.600
was kind of like, oh, like I don't know how much
longer I can handle this. Um, so like I would like
0:58:15.600,0:58:22.800
tell my younger self like oh like don't let like
outside like influences affect your relationship
0:58:22.800,0:58:27.520
because at the end of the day a relationship is
the both of you. So it's just really the matter
0:58:27.520,0:58:35.760
of like how you navigate that together. Um I mean
I feel like we did a good job. Um yeah that sounds
0:58:35.760,0:58:41.680
like it was really tough. We got through it.
Yeah, because I am also a people pleaser. So
0:58:41.680,0:58:47.840
that was like really hard for me. Um, but yeah,
I think that's something that I would tell both
0:58:47.840,0:58:59.360
of us actually like don't let outside influences
like affect our relationship. Oh, for sure. Um,
0:58:59.360,0:59:07.200
if I had something to tell my younger self,
um, I think it would just be to be more open
0:59:07.200,0:59:15.600
quicker. Um, again, like a lot of the the rocky
parts of our um the beginning of our relationship
0:59:15.600,0:59:24.160
are due to me not being me being closed off, not
willing to let all of my walls down at once. Um,
0:59:24.160,0:59:29.520
and that's definitely hard, especially going into
a new relationship being that vulnerable that
0:59:29.520,0:59:35.440
quickly. Mhm. Um, but we were literally strangers,
too. Yeah, exactly. Um, so I can't be too mad at
0:59:35.440,0:59:42.080
myself for it, but in hindsight, I mean, we're
seven years deep and Yeah, these have all been
0:59:42.080,0:59:50.080
great years, so just commit, you know. Yeah. Don't
be too scared. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. Okay,
0:59:50.080,0:59:54.800
we are wrapping up. It's been an hour. We've been
here for probably like almost an hour and a half
0:59:54.800,0:59:59.520
now. Sounds about right. Didn't even feel like it
though. Um I'm curious. You kind of alluded to it
0:59:59.520,1:00:09.680
already, but what are your guys' love languages?
Um for me, like what um I guess my big three. Um
1:00:09.680,1:00:15.040
I'm a big out of five. Yeah. Out of five. Uh
I'm big on physical touch. I think that's my
1:00:15.040,1:00:20.400
number one. Uh at least in like an intimate
relationship. Um physical touch is one. Um,
1:00:20.400,1:00:29.040
I really enjoy quality time and um, uh, words
of affirmation. Those are kind of like the the
1:00:29.040,1:00:34.160
three. And I think we honestly share the three. Is
that is that how you would rank them? I would Oh,
1:00:34.160,1:00:37.760
physical touch number one. Yeah, definitely.
There's like physical touch and then maybe like
1:00:37.760,1:00:44.080
And then you can combine the bottom two. Yeah. Um,
that's definitely how I I show my affection. Um,
1:00:44.080,1:00:48.560
at least to her. It's It's very rare that I do
with anyone else. And you also like receiving it,
1:00:48.560,1:00:56.400
too. I I like receiving it too. Like all three of
them too. Um I think for me what I like receiving
1:00:56.400,1:01:02.480
is so I would say number one I think acts of
service has been like like my number one for
1:01:02.480,1:01:09.360
the longest time. Um and then two would be
quality time and then I think three is words
1:01:09.360,1:01:19.360
of affirmation. Um but like what I like to give
is um gift. Mhm. gift giving. He's a great gift.
1:01:19.360,1:01:24.560
Yeah. Like that is like my number one. Like I
love gift giving. Like for Easter I literally
1:01:24.560,1:01:30.640
got him like 2K. Mhm. Like for no reason. Just for
no reason. Just cuz I wanted to give him it. Like
1:01:30.640,1:01:38.000
that is just like something I love doing. Um and
because he loves physical touch so much, like I've
1:01:38.000,1:01:44.400
actually learned to like give that to him cuz at
first like I was not really like big on it. And I
1:01:44.400,1:01:50.240
honestly like receiving it now too because of him.
So you guys overlap though with the quality time
1:01:50.240,1:01:54.480
sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's
important too. We just like sitting in silence.
1:01:54.480,1:01:58.720
We don't even have to be talking to each other.
And I think that's also because like we literally
1:01:58.720,1:02:06.800
were medium distance. So it's like just like being
together is like a gift. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. My
1:02:06.800,1:02:15.360
last question is what is something that you guys
bond over? Um I feel like the first thing that
1:02:15.360,1:02:21.120
came into mind is music. Honestly, like that's
like the root. Like our first conversation ever
1:02:21.120,1:02:25.120
was literally about I feel like you guys are
always talking about music. Yeah, we we try
1:02:25.120,1:02:29.920
to compete. I mean, I I know she does, but I
I'm competitive. So, okay, you're competitive
1:02:29.920,1:02:34.560
or you want to compete because I put you on the
most music cuz she has really good music taste.
1:02:34.560,1:02:40.720
There can be songs that I've never heard before.
Like in the in the beginning of our relationship,
1:02:40.720,1:02:47.920
the music that I listened to was very mainstream,
very like old school everything on the radio,
1:02:47.920,1:02:54.560
like rap radio or like pop radio or old school
R&B music. Like that was it. That's what I grew
1:02:54.560,1:03:04.000
up on. Um, when I got with Robin, she almost
instantly expanded my music palette. Um, she
1:03:04.000,1:03:13.520
introduced like a lot of like 2000s90s Bay Area
music. Um, she put me on to like different waves
1:03:13.520,1:03:21.440
of R&B and stuff like that. Soul and soul music.
So from there, like from our meeting is when I
1:03:21.440,1:03:29.360
really started listening to a lot more music um,
and expanding my music pallet. So now now today
1:03:29.360,1:03:36.720
she'll pull a song up and like I'll quietly Shazam
it. Yeah. Um to not tell her that like dang like
1:03:36.720,1:03:42.720
you're playing some fire right now. Um or I'll be
like hey let me show you the song I found today.
1:03:42.720,1:03:48.480
Um so validation I literally like call him out
too cuz like there's this one song that I played
1:03:48.480,1:03:54.160
like not too long ago and he was quiet like he had
no idea what it was right. So I was like, "Okay,
1:03:54.160,1:03:58.080
this guy does not know what it is." Like, "So, you
know, next car ride with him, he's playing that
1:03:58.080,1:04:02.480
song." And I'm like, "Okay, this is a banger."
And then he'll admit after and he'll be like,
1:04:02.480,1:04:07.440
"Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I listen to it on
the way home after like I left and it's just so
1:04:07.440,1:04:12.240
funny to me cuz I'm like he swears like she got
the buffers. I don't He like swears like, "Oh,
1:04:12.240,1:04:19.040
let me go on a" So then like half of his
playlist is like because of me like Yeah,
1:04:19.040,1:04:23.600
cuz you know how much of a compliment it is. No,
it's such a compliment. Like Such a compliment.
1:04:23.600,1:04:27.440
There's only so much fluffing of your ego that
he can if you hear those words like, "Hey, what
1:04:27.440,1:04:32.880
song is this?" Like, "Oh, you want to know what
song?" Yeah. Literally. Yeah. So, and he doesn't
1:04:32.880,1:04:36.880
want to give me that cuz we're so we're like both
competitive. So competitive with this song. So,
1:04:36.880,1:04:41.920
he like doesn't want to give me that satisfaction.
The like the two or three times that she's done it
1:04:41.920,1:04:48.320
to me where she's like, "Oh, this is a good song."
I'm like, "Mom, of course it's a good song." And
1:04:48.320,1:04:52.960
like if he hears me listening to a song that like
I don't listen to as much that he's listened to
1:04:52.960,1:04:58.960
before, he's like, "Oh, you know that song because
of me." And I'm just like, "Calm down." Like I've
1:04:58.960,1:05:04.880
heard of it before. I just started listening to
it more, not because you played it. I can see my
1:05:04.880,1:05:09.920
own growth just based on the music that I listen
to. Um I have playlists from back when we first
1:05:09.920,1:05:16.000
got together and I'm like, "That's some loveydovey
[ __ ] you know?" Like um and then you carry that
1:05:16.000,1:05:21.600
on to to what you have now. Like I remember when
we we drove you up from San Diego. I was literally
1:05:21.600,1:05:26.720
just thinking about this. I was like, "So who
got him in a reggae?" Right. No. So it was it
1:05:26.720,1:05:34.000
was two like friend groups. So um one of my best
friends um yeah one of my best friends uh he's
1:05:34.000,1:05:40.480
Polynesian and all he really listens to is reae.
So when I became friends with him in high school,
1:05:40.480,1:05:47.120
I was around him all the time. So we would just
be listening to reggae. Um, and then her friends,
1:05:47.120,1:05:52.320
uh, one of her best or two of her best friends
also listened to Ree. Um, so the very little
1:05:52.320,1:05:57.600
that I knew of, they were putting me on more
stuff. Um, but what makes the story funny
1:05:57.600,1:06:04.640
is Ena had me on ox for like a good like two
hours of this drive and I'm playing reae music,
1:06:04.640,1:06:10.800
but it's all simp ass like I love you reae music.
And she's like, how are you a s even in island
1:06:10.800,1:06:15.120
music? Like it doesn't make sense. Okay. So,
I went to school in Santa Cruz, right? And so,
1:06:15.120,1:06:21.280
the reggae that I knew was like reggae, you know?
So, I was like, that's what reggae is. And then,
1:06:21.280,1:06:24.960
you know, but now I know like now, you know,
being with Brad and like listening to more reggae,
1:06:24.960,1:06:29.760
I'm just like, okay, this like not as uncommon as
I expected. But like that was the first time I had
1:06:29.760,1:06:38.320
listened to like non stoner like J. Jug and like
J stuff. Yeah. I was like, wow. Like there's more
1:06:38.320,1:06:44.640
to it. It carries on. Yeah. That's so funny. I
actually did not know that. Yeah. Yeah. She called
1:06:44.640,1:06:48.560
me out like she was quiet for like 20 minutes cuz
I liked it. I was like, "This is good." Yeah. It
1:06:48.560,1:06:53.680
was like six songs played and she's like, "Damn,
you are a s even in this music." That's crazy.
1:06:53.680,1:07:01.680
That's so funny. Ain't no way. But yeah. Oh my
gosh. Well, thank you guys so much for opening
1:07:01.680,1:07:07.680
up your relationship with us. Honestly, like we
we barely even talk about our love story unless
1:07:07.680,1:07:13.440
someone asks. Unless pro it's prompted. Yeah. Um,
I think we've only ever been around each other to
1:07:13.440,1:07:18.640
talk about it together like once or twice. Like
literally just like woohoo like Josh and Yeah.
1:07:18.640,1:07:25.200
Yeah. real like I mean it's it's one that we love
and we talk about it to each other often but we
1:07:25.200,1:07:28.640
don't really get to talk to other people about it.
So yeah, no wonder. I was like, "Hey, I want to
1:07:28.640,1:07:33.520
talk about your guys' love story on my podcast.
Are you guys free tomorrow? Screw it. Let's do
1:07:33.520,1:07:40.960
it." I mean, this was so much fun. Like I really
loved having like Yeah. Shout out to being episode
1:07:40.960,1:07:47.520
one. Yeah, maybe you guys can come back on and
give us updates. We will we'll be married. Yeah,
1:07:47.520,1:07:54.320
you'll be married. You'll probably be pregnant.
Whoa. Whoa. Let's take steps slowly while we can.
1:07:54.320,1:08:01.040
Okay. Well, it's not going to take you that long,
so don't worry. In case uh people are curious and
1:08:01.040,1:08:07.920
want to like follow you guys' relationship, are
there any places online that people can find you?
1:08:07.920,1:08:13.520
Instagram and Instagram. Really? That's I mean I
have a Excuse me. I have a Tik Tok. So like Yes,
1:08:13.520,1:08:18.720
you do have a Tik Tok. I I like post them all
the time, too. And like those It's so funny to
1:08:18.720,1:08:26.320
me because like the Tik Toks like about him are
the ones that get the most likes. So yeah. I mean,
1:08:26.320,1:08:33.120
you guys can follow me on Tik Tok at the Robin
Naira. Same as Instagram. Yay. Okay. Well, thank
1:08:33.120,1:08:39.520
you guys for joining us for our very first episode
of Ordinary Love. Um, I am Karina again and if you
1:08:39.520,1:08:46.560
are curious, you can find me on Instagram and Tik
Tok at Solless Therapy and Ordinary Love podcast
1:08:46.560,1:08:59.561
on Instagram, Tik Tok, and YouTube. Thank you guys
so much. Yay. Thank you for having us. [Music]